Wilbers or Ohlins ttx

[roamer]

I bought the non esa gs wc with the intention of fitting better suspension,
Now at the time to decide,
Ohlins do fully adjustable ttx front and rear,
Wilbers only offer the economy front shock in non ESA, confirmed by revs,
The esa option has full adjustment and the front for the twincam also,
I am swaying to the ohlins,
Has anyone ant experience of non ESA on either manufacturer on a wc bike
Roamer

 

[Blackal]

a TTX installation will cost a fair bit - no?

I'd be happy with a Wilbers non-ESA combo, with rear remote preload. It will be an improvement on BMW ESA.

Al

 

[pistole]

I have full front and back TTX setup on my non-ESA water GS.

the ride is sublime. Very very stable when riding at high speeds in the curves. The stock suspension was too softly sprung and the damping was only adequate (ie , you'll reach its limits quickly on a fast B road ride , rear wallowing etc).

with the Ohlins , as you dail in the throttle past apex , the rear just soaks up the power and launches the bike out. No wallowing , no hesitation.

But the front (esp) is sensitive to spring selection. Make SURE you get one which is appropriate for your weight.

good luck.

BTW : the setup for the K50 is :

R1200GS K5 13-14 (Front) BM147 (TTX36)

R1200GS K5 13-14 (Rear) BM146 (TTX39)

 

[roamer]

I have full front and back TTX setup on my non-ESA water GS.

the ride is sublime. Very very stable when riding at high speeds in the curves. The stock suspension was too softly sprung and the damping was only adequate (ie , you'll reach its limits quickly on a fast B road ride , rear wallowing etc).

with the Ohlins , as you dail in the throttle past apex , the rear just soaks up the power and launches the bike out. No wallowing , no hesitation.

But the front (esp) is sensitive to spring selection. Make SURE you get one which is appropriate for your weight.

good luck.

BTW : the setup for the K50 is :

R1200GS K5 13-14 (Front) BM147 (TTX36)

R1200GS K5 13-14 (Rear) BM146 (TTX39)

This is the set up I was looking at, and how I find the stock suspension,
Thanks for sharing your experience,
It seems Wilbers have got the esa sorted at the expense of offering an equivalent adjust line shock which is probably more popular and justifies development,

 

[roamer]

a TTX installation will cost a fair bit - no?

I'd be happy with a Wilbers non-ESA combo, with rear remote preload. It will be an improvement on BMW ESA.

Al

The ttx ohlins is Approx £500 more than the Wilbers with the economy front and full adjust rear, but only £200 if the full spec front was a wc option using the tc price as a guide,
I was led to believe type approval and development cost has caused a change to what Wilbers offer, esa wlibers are popular so that's where they are investing,,
The prospect of spending £ 1400 on a less adjustable set up goes away from the idea for me ,

 

[Neil W]

Speak to Richard at MAXTON

 

[Blackal]

I get the impression that the front shock is not so influential as the rear. I'd go for the Ohlins setup, or a non ESA Wilbers installation.

Al

 

[roamer]

Thanks for the input guys,
The whole idea was to go fully adjustable, and of the two manufacturers only ohlins do on non esa, pity as Wilbers seem good,
Wilbers have got the esa well sorted unlike ohlins,
So if it helps anyone else I got a pair of ohlins ttx from KGL in France,
They are the BM 146 and BM 147 , sprung to my weight and delivered to me,
For £ 1650, against £1960 in the uk plus fitting and extra spring if outside the standard 80-85 kgs,
I will post up how they perform , I allready have 2500 miles on the standard suspension,,
Roamer,

 

[pistole]

Roamer ,

Please make sure that your BM147 (the front TTX36 shock) is not part of the very recent recall by OHLINS :

Part and batch numbers for shock absorbers to be recalled
Part No Batch number(s)

Part# Batch#
AP 340 136734 136735 137254 138061 309524
BM 147 137936
BM 340 136737 136739 137874 138320
BM 342 136741 137875
BM 343 136742 136920
BM 345 309605
BM 677 138736
DU 339 309611
DU 339P 137191 137494 309541
DU 340 136743 136744 137149 137495 309528
DU 868 (DU 871) 136527 138064
HO 339 136745 136746 136747 309529
HO 340 136749 136753 136754 137163 137593 309530
HO 358 137513 138121 309517
KA 035 136126 137366 138068
KA 040 137030 137735
KA 336 136755 136756 137268 138613 309531
KA 338 136757 137741 309532
KA 340 136758 136759 136760 136761 137031 137515 137822 137904 138293 309533
KA 358 137070
KA 788 137518
SU 026 137752 138791
SU 339 136762 136763 137521 137753 309534
SU 340 136764 136765 137522
SU 357 309522
SU 789 138770
SU 932 137523
TR 338 309584
TR 339 136770 309536
YA 339 136771 136772 136774 136775 136924 137185 137528 137933 309537 309610
YA 340 136776 136777 136778 137912 138631 309538
YA 358 309519
YA 359 309563
YA 931 135517
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http://www.google.com/url?q=http://...sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNFhVS_Xx7W6-z4dCxv7OBEPXgUuQw

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[roamer]

Thanks for the information,
My order is being supplied from ohlins, not off the shelf ,
So should not be affected, I will ask to be sure,,
Roamer,,

Roamer ,

Please make sure that your BM147 (the front TTX36 shock) is not part of the very recent recall by OHLINS :

Part and batch numbers for shock absorbers to be recalled
Part No Batch number(s)

Part# Batch#
AP 340 136734 136735 137254 138061 309524
BM 147 137936
BM 340 136737 136739 137874 138320
BM 342 136741 137875
BM 343 136742 136920
BM 345 309605
BM 677 138736
DU 339 309611
DU 339P 137191 137494 309541
DU 340 136743 136744 137149 137495 309528
DU 868 (DU 871) 136527 138064
HO 339 136745 136746 136747 309529
HO 340 136749 136753 136754 137163 137593 309530
HO 358 137513 138121 309517
KA 035 136126 137366 138068
KA 040 137030 137735
KA 336 136755 136756 137268 138613 309531
KA 338 136757 137741 309532
KA 340 136758 136759 136760 136761 137031 137515 137822 137904 138293 309533
KA 358 137070
KA 788 137518
SU 026 137752 138791
SU 339 136762 136763 137521 137753 309534
SU 340 136764 136765 137522
SU 357 309522
SU 789 138770
SU 932 137523
TR 338 309584
TR 339 136770 309536
YA 339 136771 136772 136774 136775 136924 137185 137528 137933 309537 309610
YA 340 136776 136777 136778 137912 138631 309538
YA 358 309519
YA 359 309563
YA 931 135517
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http://www.google.com/url?q=http://...sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNFhVS_Xx7W6-z4dCxv7OBEPXgUuQw

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http://www.google.com/url?q=http://...sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNGO0PkK1QdvPDmDg-Ah1H2RQ_PC1g

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