Hi, Mike
Thanks.
So those are panniers made my lad called Ex21 he is running little company called 21 Brother, they make a variety of products which are way better and cheaper then big brands.
They are tough and waterproof, but I was using them on AT so they are a bit to big for xch, for next trip I am planing to get let say "twirl bag" which is made by this lad, it way more stable then panniers and very stable as well.
Chris
Ill publish some more pictures and u are going to able to see this bag, on my friend bike( they are grey)