Rukka... schmukka..

I'm sure I read somewhere that Klim aren't without their problems.

The 'fit' for one. I'm an Italian (Dianese etc) fit and all the Klim gear was so baggy or tight in places it was laughable.

Absolutely loving my Rukka Nirvala suit. Best most comfortable gear I've ever owned. I trust it won't leak at any point future but so far so good.


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Just in case anyone was thinking of buying Rukka kit - it may have all the brand names like GoreTex etc. but don't expect much for the ludicrously expensive price you're paying!
I bought an Armas suit just over 3 years ago at a cost of well over £1500 and I have had a litany of problems with it since day one - to the point where it is literally trigger's broom:

After 9 days of ownership the Goretex lockout closure was split across the outside tracks, making the zip almost impossible to close. The entire zip was very stiff. Tranam replaced the jacket as it was effectively new.
After about 2 years on the original trousers a split developed in the stitching down one leg and the zip split. This was argued about but eventually done under warranty. The trousers came back from Rukka with a burn-mark through the material near the repair, presumably by someone cack-handed whilst heat-sealing the seams. Rukka denied all knowledge of this; fortunately after much argument Tranam replaced the trousers.
About 9 months ago the zips on both sleeves started to separate. Another warranty return. I reported the velcro flap on the neck but this was ignored.
The jacket has just gone back again to have the velcro in the neck looked at, the Gore Lockout closure has split again in 2 places and the left hand bottom pocket zip has split at the bottom. The trouser knee has worn through just a year after getting a replacement garment. Tranam has send the pics off to Rukka and not only have they refused a warranty claim, but they are refusing to repair it at cost, saying that they only now do warranty repairs. Even if they did, they'd charge £210+VAT to replace one 6"x6" panel :eek:

Now, the garments have been completely waterproof, so the GoreTex works. However in addition to the numerous repairs, the suit suffers from a number of pretty major design flaws:
  • Gore Lockout (now abandoned and not available on any Rukka garment) - whilst waterproof is prone to split and needs constant application of silicone lubricant
  • There are no flaps behind the Gore Lockout so in very cold weather you freeze from the zip area. The internal outlast liner zips in the jacket rather than in the middle, so no help there!
  • Neck velcro - too short to stay in place and has flapped around in the breeze since about 4-5 months of ownership
  • Zips are on the underside of the sleeve where they're hard to reach with gloves on (I notice they've since moved the zip to the top of the sleeve)
  • The material underneath the Superfabric on the knees is wafer thin - about the thickness of two sheets of A4. God help you skidding down the road on the knee!
  • I've had plenty of different garments but never worn anything so uncomfortable - it's stiff and unyielding at the elbows and knees and has absolutely no useful venting of any kind. Sure, it's not a summer mesh suit but other kit I've owned has been both waterproof and breathable


So, in essence, once the warranty expires you're on your own. If you should find anything that they assess as wear and tear, they won't repair it, even if you pay. Built-in obsolescence in a £15 kettle is fair enough, but in a £750 pair of trousers?

As a comparison I have a Hein Gericke Tricky suit (total cost, £515) which I have had for about 9 years. GoreTex? Check. Superfabric? Check. Waterproof and Never leaked? Check. Any damage after sliding down the road twice? No? Check.

Having bought over £3K worth of their kit in the last 3 years, Rukka will not be getting another penny from me - they may look premium but they're made in China just like everyone else's garments and just as liable to fail. And whilst several repairs were done under warranty, you're stuffed if they don't accept it as a warranty repair.

I must however say a big thank you to J&S for doing their very best to sort things out, and they're currently trying to arrange a non-identical repair with Hell for Leather. Thank you also to Tranam for stepping in when Rukka bailed out. Any suggestions on good, well-spec'ed mid-priced garments I can bin after 3 years without worrying about warranty claims? :D
 
The 'fit' for one. I'm an Italian (Dianese etc) fit and all the Klim gear was so baggy or tight in places it was laughable.

Absolutely loving my Rukka Nirvala suit. Best most comfortable gear I've ever owned. I trust it won't leak at any point future but so far so good.


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It certainly is a more comfortable suit (when I tried it on) than either the Armas or the Armaxis that I have. However be aware that they've massively cut down the amount of Armacor in the Nivala compared to previous jackets (for example, the Armas back is covered in it), so it is essentially a very expensive suit made of Cordura.
 
It certainly is a more comfortable suit (when I tried it on) than either the Armas or the Armaxis that I have. However be aware that they've massively cut down the amount of Armacor in the Nivala compared to previous jackets (for example, the Armas back is covered in it), so it is essentially a very expensive suit made of Cordura.

Klim have also reduced the amount of Armacor
I think i read somewhere ( I may have dreamt it) that the Chinese have bough or ordered so much they have the market cornered and it has become prohibitively expensive ( much much more than it was which was a lot )
 
Klim have also reduced the amount of Armacor
I think i read somewhere ( I may have dreamt it) that the Chinese have bough or ordered so much they have the market cornered and it has become prohibitively expensive ( much much more than it was which was a lot )

Is Klim waterproof.........
 
I bought Rukka trousers and the zip broke quickly, it was repaired but the repair took months and looked very poor.

Then the trousers split, Distributor said I’d grazed them. Aside from the question why they think I’d graze my groin on a pair of few month old trousers, they refused honour the warranty.

I had a friend at imperial College a textiles expert analyse the materials under Microscope and the threads were damaged and not joined at the seams - a manufacturing fault not an angle grinder on my man parts. Warranty on £550 trousers worth zero.

The jacket I bought 2 years ago the zips have failed and fall apart.

Rukka products not worth the time or money. The dealer and distributor determine who has their warranty honoured and who is a mug.
 
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I think its a good idea to lube the zips. Easy to do. The waterproof ones are stiff and using excessive force to do them up wont help.


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I think its a good idea to lube the zips. Easy to do. The waterproof ones are stiff and using excessive force to do them up wont help.


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For the avoidance of doubt, my zips were lubricated using the correct Rukka supplied pen. It’s crap, the zip fell apart, and the warranty is worthless.
 
Have had my Armas jacket for about 7 years now with no problems until I washed it the other day in order to reproof it , followed instructions to zip up the jacket but was a bit miffed when I got it out of the machine and the zip had separated , wouldn't have been a problem except the slider part of the lockout zip was no longer attached to the same side of the zip as the fixed bottom part .
Was getting a bit panicky about having to send the jacket away for repair as there is no way the sliding part will slip back onto the main zip that is until I had a good look at the lower fixed part of the lockout zip and realised that is is fixed to the zip by two very small torx head screws , a couple of minutes later it was removed the sliding portion was replaced and the lower refitted and it is working fine

Try that with a conventional zip that has come apart
 

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