R80 G/S Paris Dakar 1987 - opinions required

Berin · Apr 21, 2017

Contemplating the world of airheads now seems sensible, as I can't be bothered with new bikes that are the same as the old bikes but with Star-Trek colour displays, wi-fi connectivity and a load of electronical stiff that I don't want.

My search has led me to what looks like a nice, but very spendy, R80G/S Dakar.

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Here's what the vendor says:

"A superb matching numbers example in ex-factory condition

Refreshed to exact original ex-factory condition in Germany by respected classic BMW specialists Siebenrock, using many genuine new OEM parts down to the original specification Metzler tyres (parts receipts available). The quality is exceptional (only the panniers and toolkit are not as new). This is an original factory bike complete with the signed tank, not one of the dealer parts bin specials produced at the time to fill factory shortage of supply.

The bike was imported to the UK in 2015 and first registered in the UK in 2016. It is fitted with a UK spec milometer which reads 3 miles and has been stored in showroom conditions. "

Does this look like a good bike, and ball park what's it worth? I have a few more photos but not much more detail at this point.

timeandtide · Apr 21, 2017

A lot?

Berin · Apr 21, 2017

timeandtide said:
A lot?

Any advance on "a lot", maybe with some numbers?

B Murr · Apr 21, 2017

Thats a very, very nice looking machine. Haven't a clue how much its worth though. I'd guess that you have to think to yourself how much you are prepared to spend and if you didn't pay what they are asking or at least offer a haggle price in same ball park, would you later be kicking yourself and dreaming of what it would have been like to own it if someone else walks on to the scene and buys it?

Packer · Apr 21, 2017

If it's less than a new adventure bike buy it. The new one will be worth buttons in ten years time, the '80 may well be worth more than you paid for it, even with extensive use. Always assuming that you cherish it and keep it corrosion free.

Tetley · Apr 21, 2017

Bit of a minefield this. The bike would have to have left the factory as a Paris Dakar for max value. The others are dealer conversions or altered by owners (as you say) Gary at BaMW has the records and can confirm its original form. Gaston did sign some tanks on the early bikes in black marker. I'm guessing the "signature" on this bike is just part of the graphics set.
I've looked at Siebenrock G/S rebuilds, I would give them 8 out of 10.
So value...The guy at Motolegends has been trying to sell a minty Gary Burton bike for some time for £16k, not sure if it ever sold. That is about the price of a bike direct from Gary. You do see them on Mobile.de, but even a standard G/S is up to €10k on there.
If I was buying I'd be looking at £10 - 12k for a perfect bike, If I'm selling £12 - 14. You pay your money and take your chance.

scooter paul · Apr 21, 2017

Have a look at BaMW website. Gary Burton specialises in restoring bikes like this. I have seen his work and it is top notch and would fit this description. Siebenrock is also well respected. I would expect a price over 10k and would not fall over if it was 15k. There will be some who rubbish these prices but they do fetch them so that's what they are worth.
Paul.

Berin · Apr 21, 2017

scooter paul said:
Have a look at BaMW website. Gary Burton specialises in restoring bikes like this. I have seen his work and it is top notch and would fit this description. Siebenrock is also well respected. I would expect a price over 10k and would not fall over if it was 15k. There will be some who rubbish these prices but they do fetch them so that's what they are worth.
Paul.

The asking is £18k, which seems high - and it's in effect a zero mile bike after the rebuild, and so potentially worth less after it's turned a wheel - which it most definitely would. Thanks for the pointer to the BaMW site, I'll check that out.

Just one thing - if that's a genuine Gaston signature, and not a graphics set, does that make a difference?

dr nosh · Apr 21, 2017

I can't deny it. That's a beautiful looking example.

£18k probably a little on the high side, I would have expected £12 - 14k.

The Gaston sig looks like a vinyl graphic from the picture.

steve hughes · Apr 21, 2017

Berin if you are contemplating spending some series Wonga on a R80, at least go and speak to Gary Burton at Bamw. He really knows his machines and his advice may steer you away from an expensive wrong un. He has a signed Gaston tank in his conservatory ( havnt we all!)

Florence on here also knows his stuff, last thing you want is to buy a Gaston Rainer signed tank bike , only to find its a recycled R80 ST or similar that the rivet counters on here and in the know will point out to you.

Steve

Tetley · Apr 21, 2017

Just one thing - if that's a genuine Gaston signature, and not a graphics set, does that make a difference?[/QUOTE]

The tank that I saw with the "genuine signature" on looked original and well used, the signature was just visible as it had faded over time. Does it add value, not sure, personally I prefer the patina and character of an original bike rather than a minty re build.
£18k is toooo much.
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steve hughes · Apr 21, 2017

Tetley said:
Just one thing - if that's a genuine Gaston signature, and not a graphics set, does that make a difference?

The tank that I saw with the "genuine signature" on looked original and well used, the signature was just visible as it had faded over time.

Agree with the above, the original tank I saw the signature was faded and worn not like your photo.

Steve
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Tetley · Apr 21, 2017

steve hughes said:
The tank that I saw with the "genuine signature" on looked original and well used, the signature was just visible as it had faded over time.

Agree with the above, the original tank I saw the signature was faded and worn not like your photo.

Steve
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The one in Gary's shed.....

ChasF · Apr 21, 2017

On the one hand you're buying a bike that won't depreciate, although the way I look at it is the seller knows this and, at £18k, is taking his cut on the next ten years pontential appreciation up front.

On the other hand, whilst it's a very nice looking bike, which has a cult following it's not a particularly special bike. The 100GS is a lot better in many ways especially suspension and engine.

Berin · Apr 21, 2017

Thing is, I'd want to use it so might want something with fettled brakes and suspenders too.

JohnnyBoxer · Apr 21, 2017

It's not worth £18k
I do know that
Somebody may want £18k for it but it isn't worth that

Nice 'n' Fat · Apr 21, 2017

Berin said:
Thing is, I'd want to use it so might want something with fettled brakes and suspenders too.

You'd be better off with a nice little R80 GS Basic :thumby:

Rob Farmer · Apr 21, 2017

Garys bikes used to have VAT put on top of the asking price but I'm not sure that hes VAT registered anymore.

if you want a bike to ride buy a Basic. The paralevers are so much better as riding machines http://www.bamw.co.uk/bikes/96-r80gs.html in their Basic form are far rarer. A genuine Kalahari is only 1 of 600 machines http://www.bamw.co.uk/bikes/96-r80gs-kal.html

Tetley · Apr 21, 2017

Rob Farmer said:
Garys bikes used to have VAT put on top of the asking price but I'm not sure that hes VAT registered anymore.

if you want a bike to ride buy a Basic. The paralevers are so much better as riding machines http://www.bamw.co.uk/bikes/96-r80gs.html in their Basic form are far rarer. A genuine Kalahari is only 1 of 600 machines http://www.bamw.co.uk/bikes/96-r80gs-kal.html

Agree with Nice n Fat and Rob, I've got a basic and a G/S Paris Dakar the basic is a much better bike if you intend to ride it.

peepingtom · Apr 21, 2017

Rob Farmer said:
Garys bikes used to have VAT put on top of the asking price but I'm not sure that hes VAT registered anymore.

if you want a bike to ride buy a Basic. The paralevers are so much better as riding machines http://www.bamw.co.uk/bikes/96-r80gs.html in their Basic form are far rarer. A genuine Kalahari is only 1 of 600 machines http://www.bamw.co.uk/bikes/96-r80gs-kal.html

Looks to me like the prices are higher than the last time I looked that's for sure. Glad to see he has started to sell parts again , he has made some of the best bikes ever. That paralever with the old pd style tank and 75bhp at the rear wheel is just stunning. If I had to have only one bike to keep for the rest of my days that would be it.

The orange R90s looks lovely too :blast

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