Not a complaint.just my findings.sometimes you win, sometimes you lose.I can accept that.
Not a complaint.just my findings.sometimes you win, sometimes you lose.I can accept that.
Definitely no difference in mine either.Absolutely nothing, and certainly not the 20% torque and power gain suggested by the supplied printout.Something was not right.Felt like I’d stumped up £300 for someone to thrash the tits off my bike on a rolling road.
Why not go back for a refund then? The guys offer a full refund if you're not happy. I'm struggling to understand why you wouldn't take advantage of the refund?
Let's flip the coin, it can feel slight confrontational by asking for ones money back in someone's workshop whilst employees are present, some don't have the confidence and don't want any confrontation, so I do see why some bods don't do as above.
Phone him up:
"Hey Geoff, I'm not seeing any improvement in the bike - I think I'd like it returned to standard"
"Okay - when can you come in?"
"How about Monday? yes? - okay see you then"
Bike goes on computer, software removed, trial run on the road, and money handed back.
Where is the confrontation?
Phone him up:
"Hey Geoff, I'm not seeing any improvement in the bike - I think I'd like it returned to standard"
"Okay - when can you come in?"
"How about Monday? yes? - okay see you then"
Bike goes on computer, software removed, trial run on the road, and money handed back.
Where is the confrontation?
Let's flip the coin, it can feel slight confrontational by asking for ones money back in someone's workshop whilst employees are present, some don't have the confidence and don't want any confrontation, so I do see why some bods don't do as above.
That's just twisted thinking. Geoff has stated "if you are not happy with it" as being the justification for a refund (not - "only if you prove it is not good"). Also - Geoff overlays the original mapping - so simply removes the overlay and the ECU looks at the original map again.
That's just twisted thinking. Geoff has stated "if you are not happy with it" as being the justification for a refund (not - "only if you prove it is not good"). Also - Geoff overlays the original mapping - so simply removes the overlay and the ECU looks at the original map again.
So they just bitch on a forum instead, where the company's reputation gets dragged through the mud? That's not a very nice way to be, if you ask me.
So they just bitch on a forum instead, where the company's reputation gets dragged through the mud? That's not a very nice way to be, if you ask me.
Hundreds of positive comments and a couple of negative and thats bitching and dragging his companies reputation through the mud, don't be a dick.
Did Geoff ever respond on here, to the people who had negative experiences last time? Cant recall a pm offering me £300 back. The first I knew of it was on here, can't seem to see it on his website either, so can you point me in the direction of this refund guarantee please.
Regardless if you give em there money back they will still air there feelings on the interweb, across the bike forums there's lots of Doubters regarding re-map's and there big increased gains.
I was told on another forum its impossible to get over 20bhp gain on my stock Ktm with just a re-map when bods have spent ££££ on well known mods and Dyno time to only get similar figures. Impossible... I gave up fighting my corner
I know - why don't we lock this thread down and have a poll for hilltop mods put up instead? It can just have 3 simple choices and one vote only to be done if you have first hand experiance of a hilltop remap - nothing else.
It could run for a month or two and then lock it down also - job done, refer all new posts asking about hilltop remaps to the poll.
Simply:
Yes it worked and I noticed a difference, I would recomend it.
I'm not sure if I can tell the difference - I'm taking the 5th on this one.
I cannot feel a difference, I would not recomend it.
This would give a more meaningfull answer with no one getting highlighted for not following the crowd.
Sound like a plan??
James
Not reallly, a lot of people ask a lot of valid questions.
If you feel that you have seen enough of hilltop threads, don't read them.
I was told on another forum its impossible to get over 20bhp gain on my stock Ktm with just a re-map when bods have spent ££££ on well known mods and Dyno time to only get similar figures. Impossible... I gave up fighting my corner