Best investment potential :- Early M900 or R1100S Boxer Cup?

Go on then what and on what basis please? As a former owner I'd like to think I had some knowledge of what I brought and the Duke specialist who serviced it who passed that on.
My pal had the same bike with carbon cans and his started to break down over time. Is it a myth maybe I did say apparently.

Post '97 electrics is not right - bad / unmaintained earths can be a problem on all older bikes, condition is key. Also the igniter units and crank position / timing sensor are weak spots on all years, neutral switches can be problematic. It pays to pay attention to these areas. Bad earths also cause poor lighting.
Carbon cans are absolutely fine, my '92 900ss still has it's original Termis, as does my '94 900sl
You shouldn't rely on 45 degrees of twist but instead use either a belt tensioning tool or a harmonic tester
Standard equipment? What standard equipment would that be then? Temp gauge? Fuel gauge? You get a seat and handlebars and a great motor and chassis and that's about it.
Ducati vs. GS is subjective but as an only / daily bike I'd choose a GS, and this is coming from an absolute Ducati / v-twin devotee...

A lot of well-meaning claptrap is talked about Ducatis, apologies if I came over a bit "GS:er" with my condescending and aggressive response... I'm clearly settling in here... ;-)
 
Mainly stuff like decent suspension that is fully adjustable front and rear. For bikes of that age it was my opinion that running gear was of a better quality than similar Japanese bikes and not in house made.
Day to day yes GS wins hands down but as a toy for sunny days Ducati please.
 
Post '97 electrics is not right - bad / unmaintained earths can be a problem on all older bikes, condition is key. Also the igniter units and crank position / timing sensor are weak spots on all years, neutral switches can be problematic. It pays to pay attention to these areas. Bad earths also cause poor lighting.
Carbon cans are absolutely fine, my '92 900ss still has it's original Termis, as does my '94 900sl
You shouldn't rely on 45 degrees of twist but instead use either a belt tensioning tool or a harmonic tester
Standard equipment? What standard equipment would that be then? Temp gauge? Fuel gauge? You get a seat and handlebars and a great motor and chassis and that's about it.
Ducati vs. GS is subjective but as an only / daily bike I'd choose a GS, and this is coming from an absolute Ducati / v-twin devotee...

A lot of well-meaning claptrap is talked about Ducatis, apologies if I came over a bit "GS:er" with my condescending and aggressive response... I'm clearly settling in here... ;-)

I ran out of time for editing my response...

Go on then what and on what basis please? As a former owner I'd like to think I had some knowledge of what I brought and the Duke specialist who serviced it who passed that on.
My pal had the same bike with carbon cans and his started to break down over time. Is it a myth maybe I did say apparently.

  • Post '97 electrics is not right - bad / unmaintained earths can be a problem on all older bikes, condition is key. Also the igniter units and crank position / timing sensor are weak spots on all years, neutral switches can be problematic. It pays to pay attention to these areas. Bad earths also cause poor lighting.
  • Carbon cans are absolutely fine, my '92 900ss still has it's original Termis, as does my '94 900sl
  • You shouldn't rely on 45 degrees of twist but instead use either a belt tensioning tool or a harmonic tester
  • Standard equipment? What standard equipment would that be then? Temp gauge? Fuel gauge? You get a seat and handlebars and a great motor and chassis and that's about it.
  • Ducati vs. GS is subjective but as an only / daily bike I'd choose a GS, and this is coming from an absolute Ducati / v-twin devotee...

A lot of well-meaning claptrap is talked about Ducatis, apologies if I came over a bit "GS:er" with my condescending and aggressive response... I'm clearly settling in here... ;-)

If you're looking for an investment then either bike will have its followers, although I'd say that the market for Ducati is probably a bit wider / less niche than for Boxer Cup. If I was buying Ducati for ROI then I'd go right now for an 851/888 or a 749/999 or even a Terblanche bike like an SSie or an early Multi... they're at bottom of market now. They will go up.

If you can afford to get on the square case ladder then a bevel twin will give you a decent ROI too. I picked up a 1980 900 Replica series 1.5 last year and for the £7k purchase price, plus the £4k recommissioning cost I've now got a lovely bike with a market value of £20-30k, not that selling is what I'm after. I just wanted to own one. With round case bevels fetching up to £150k it didn't seem like a bad place to park my money. :D

4v motors are much faster but the grunt from a 2v is lovely. 750ss / m750 are peaches and less rattly / grumbly around town. 900ss / m900 are ace but already starting to command a premium for a nice example. Get in now with an early 91-97 SS and keep it nice, it'll only go up as long as you keep it kind of stock or with "legit" aftermarket parts (e.g. Termignoni or SILmoto system, Marchesini or Marvic wheels).

Go for it, Ducatis are great... just not perfect and I'm not sure an older one is a good choice for an every day bike.
 
Mainly stuff like decent suspension that is fully adjustable front and rear. For bikes of that age it was my opinion that running gear was of a better quality than similar Japanese bikes and not in house made.
Day to day yes GS wins hands down but as a toy for sunny days Ducati please.


Depends what model TBH. 600/750ss or Monster will have adjustment on the rear only, and depending on what year then that might be limited to preload or you might get compression / rebound. It's a pretty perfunctory Sachs / Showa unit.

In the 91-97 era the bikes were frankly a bit crude and you had to really like a Ducati to justify the premium, especially once really high-quality bikes started hitting the market. A 1991 GSX-R 750 or an earlier CBR900RR would be a "superior" bike, viewed objectively... but the Ducati is definitely a more soulful ride, and I'd say that the chassis is capable of delivering cornering speed that keeps overall competitiveness on the road such that a well-ridden 750ss or 900ss will be a challenge for an averagely ridden GSX-R or CBR, and anyone on a ZXR or YZF / FZR will be doing well to keep up :D
 
Mainly stuff like decent suspension that is fully adjustable front and rear. For bikes of that age it was my opinion that running gear was of a better quality than similar Japanese bikes and not in house made.
Day to day yes GS wins hands down but as a toy for sunny days Ducati please.


I *do* agree that yellow ones are best though... ;-)
 

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