The Thumbwheel/scroll wheel - Do all TE models have one and what does it control?

Snapper32 · Aug 13, 2018

Hi folks!

I've Googled around and used the search engine here, but can't quite find the specific answers that I want to these two questions;

1. Do all TE models (since 2013) have the thumbwheel fitted as standard to the left-hand grip, or was it an optional extra?

2. What functions does this wheel control on a 2013 bike - just sat-nav functions, or riding modes as well?

In a nutshell, I am looking at buying a water-cooled TE (second-hand) and have seen one which doesn't have the thumb/scroll wheel on. This makes me wonder if it is a genuine TE model or a lower model, which happens to have ESA fitted. I'm not exactly clear on the differences between the specs of the two different models :confused:

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So, I wonder if the scroll wheel should be there and also if it is particularly useful for anything other than for using with Bluetooth paired gadgets.

Thanks, in advance, for your input :thumb2

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CPJS · Aug 13, 2018

It is std as part of the TE package, best with NAV 5 or above.
No, it does not control the ESA or riding modes.
It does with NAV 5 or above tell you a ton of info about whats going on with your bike, how many times you used your brakes or went to the toilet etc.

stonehenge · Aug 13, 2018

It comes as part of the Navigation Preparation inc the locking mount. All Touring Equipment (TE) specified bikes have it. If it doesn't, it isn't a TE.

Onahi · Aug 13, 2018

If you have TFT it controls everything.
All the dash. Phone (in & out), Phonebook, recent calls, etc
TFT navigation.
Media, radio, or mp3. track listing, pause, play , shuffle, next, previous. volume.
All vehicle data. Everything. Riding modes. And fine tuning riding modes to suit you sir.
Press the Nav button and controls the nav too.

Snapper32 · Aug 13, 2018

Excellent info - thank you all for your input

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So, the bike that I was looking at is evidently not a TE (not that it is being advertised as such) ...

https://www.motorcyclecentre.com/pages/used/used-bikes/2013-13-BMW-R1200%20GS-1200cc/5b6ee46d6e38bbe7.htm

I think I'll keep looking around for a genuine TE.

Ta!

autogs · Aug 13, 2018

Hasn't got an led headlamp either nor led indicators all of which a te also has dont be put off by a non te

fred_jb · Aug 13, 2018

Bear in mind when comparing different bikes, that those sold by BMW dealers come with a 2 year warranty. This could be extremely valuable if you were unlucky enough to buy a bike which succumbed to one of the expensive faults which are not unknown with this model.

Onahi · Aug 13, 2018

fred_jb said:
Bear in mind when comparing different bikes, that those sold by BMW dealers come with a 2 year warranty. This could be extremely valuable if you were unlucky enough to buy a bike which succumbed to one of the expensive faults which are not unknown with this model.

3 years now

fred_jb · Aug 13, 2018

Onahi said:
3 years now

Is that true for secondhand bikes too? Excellent if so.

Onahi · Aug 13, 2018

I would have thought so. As it was the same for new and used in the past?

yofi · Aug 13, 2018

Onahi said:
I would have thought so. As it was the same for new and used in the past?

No way are they going to give, effectively, six years warranty on a bike, even if restricted (e.g. ESA mileage) for the approved bike warranty version. More likely they'll revert to the standard model for german cars - 3 years from new, 1 year approved used.

Onahi · Aug 13, 2018

yofi said:
No way are they going to give, effectively, six years warranty on a bike, even if restricted (e.g. ESA mileage) for the approved bike warranty version. More likely they'll revert to the standard model for german cars - 3 years from new, 1 year approved used.

It was 2 years for approved

Neil W · Aug 13, 2018

Could well be an XE spec bike

Snapper32 · Aug 13, 2018

Thanks, again, for all of the subsequent info.

I would love to buy one from a BMW dealer, but my budget stands at £8k maximum and they seldom have any that 'cheap'. I'll keep looking though.

Does anyone happen to know an online source of the standard specs of water-cooled GSs for the UK market, please? I've Googled a bit, but you guys are the experts

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dave hendy · Aug 13, 2018

Great bike but make sure you test ride any you might be interested in as the gear change on some bikes is terrible

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Onahi · Aug 13, 2018

Just had confirmation from dealership.
3 years new, and 2 years used. So five in total !

yofi · Aug 13, 2018

Onahi said:
Just had confirmation from dealership.
3 years new, and 2 years used. So five in total !

Surprised, would have thought they'd reduce the approved from what it is now. Should have always been 3 years, mind. Might make trading in the bike at 2 years old worth thinking about, as that's about 1350 quid warranty saved on the old bike.

BlueBird · Aug 13, 2018

consider that a previous owner may have removed it,
it does make operating the indicators easier if its not there.

Snapper32 · Aug 14, 2018

The long warranty is quite tempting

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Snapper32 · Aug 14, 2018

BlueBird said:
consider that a previous owner may have removed it,
it does make operating the indicators easier if its not there.

Maybe so! From what others have said though, this bike doesn't have all of the right toys to be a TE model. Whilst 'other flavours are available', I rather like the idea of getting a model that has all of the bells and whistles, as it will stop me wanting to add stuff later and should make it easier to sell (one day, years from now, I hope).

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