How to connect the TFT with Phone and SENA devices

Apparently if you put your phone in your top box the signal is reduced / cancelled because of the metal / aluminium. I keep mine in my handlebar bag. Works fine. However I have found it impossible to connect my Sena / Schuberth comms to the TFT with all the extras. I have Schuberth C4 Pro, Phone, TFT on the 2021 GSA AND I use a Sena Remote on the handlebar.
A lot of ''googling'' and I came up with some further info which I posted onto my website. https://www.motorbiketours.net/copy-of-ridings-tips especially the embedded UTube video really helps.
BUT, i still cant it all to work. I have given up and simply don't connect everything via the TFT and use everything independently. So Schuberth lid to phone and remote. nothing via the TFT.
 
Apparently if you put your phone in your top box the signal is reduced / cancelled because of the metal / aluminium. I keep mine in my handlebar bag. Works fine. However I have found it impossible to connect my Sena / Schuberth comms to the TFT with all the extras. I have Schuberth C4 Pro, Phone, TFT on the 2021 GSA AND I use a Sena Remote on the handlebar.
A lot of ''googling'' and I came up with some further info which I posted onto my website. https://www.motorbiketours.net/copy-of-ridings-tips especially the embedded UTube video really helps.
BUT, i still cant it all to work. I have given up and simply don't connect everything via the TFT and use everything independently. So Schuberth lid to phone and remote. nothing via the TFT.

I had this setup. Connected everything perfectly, 95% of the time. The weak point is BMW's TFT Bluetooth. If it doesn't connect, the solution was often to switch off the bike and restart it (after the Canbus has switched off).
 
I had this setup. Connected everything perfectly, 95% of the time. The weak point is BMW's TFT Bluetooth. If it doesn't connect, the solution was often to switch off the bike and restart it (after the Canbus has switched off).

my problem is that the remote wont work when I set it up and I cannot get it to turn on the radio in my comms.
 
my problem is that the remote wont work when I set it up and I cannot get it to turn on the radio in my comms.

There is a specific bluetooth connection mode on the Sena to connect a remote. IIRC it is the last of the pairing modes?
 
yes, i know and I do it all in the right order but it still simply doesn't work. Kinda given up on it now
 
99.9% of all issues with the BT TFT connectivity are because of :
1) Obsolete, Incompatible, out of date hardware.
2) User error.

This claim comes from 5 years of administrating the Facebook TFT group. I've seen and heard it all. And quite tiring at times !

https://www.facebook.com/groups/195190591351953
 
So the Sena never connects to the phone?

Reading through your guide, at no point does the phone connect directly to the Sena Headset. I have a few bikes and would like to listen to music through my phone on the headset when not riding the GS. Does connecting the phone to the headset aswell as to the TFT stop the above from working?

Kevin



Okay for all of those who have a Sena Devices, I have the paring instructions to be able to connect both the TFT and Nav VI as I know a lot of you are asking.
I have tested this with my own Sena 10S and it works really well. The only issue I had was when I had my phone in my topbox connected to a power pack. For some reason it kept loosing connection. As soon as I put it back in my jacket pocket all the connectivity issues went away. Not sure what causes this issue.

The list of devices I have instructions for are as follows.
10Upad, 20S Evo, SRL, 10C Pro, 20S, 10S, 10C, 10U, 10R

The steps are as follows.
  1. Clear all paring on your headset and make sure you have updated the firmware to the latest version.
  2. Turn on your phone, headset and TFT
  3. Pair your phone and TFT using the paring options in the TFT and your specific phone instructions.
  4. Set your Sena to "Phone Pairing" and pair it to the TFT. (See below on how to prepare the Sena for "Phone Pairing")
  5. Set Sena to "Second Phone Pairing" and pair it with the NAV VI (See below on how to prepare the Sena for "Phone Pairing")
  6. Turn off ALL devices and TFT.
  7. ALWAYS turn on phone BT and Sena before turning on TFT and NAV VI
  8. Enjoy the Ride.

Okay for all of those who have a Sena Devices, I have the paring instructions to be able to connect both the TFT and Nav VI as I know a lot of you are asking.

The list of devices I have instructions for are as follows.
10Upad, 20S Evo, SRL, 10C Pro, 20S, 10S, 10C, 10U, 10R

The steps are as follows.
  1. Clear all paring on your headset and make sure you have updated the firmware to the latest version.
  2. Turn on your phone, headset and TFT
  3. Pair your phone and TFT using the paring options in the TFT and your specific phone instructions.
  4. Set your Sena to "Phone Pairing" and pair it to the TFT. (See below on how to prepare the Sena for "Phone Pairing")
  5. Set Sena to "Second Phone Pairing" and pair it with the NAV VI (See below on how to prepare the Sena for "Phone Pairing")
  6. Turn off ALL devices and TFT.
  7. ALWAYS turn on phone BT and Sena before turning on TFT and NAV VI
  8. Enjoy the Ride.

"Phone Pairing Instructions"
10Upad - https://support.sena.com/…/360014313832-10Upad-Second-Mobil…
20S Evo - https://support.sena.com/…/360015946191-20S-EVO-Second-Mobi…
SRL - https://support.sena.com/…/360001041183-SRL-Second-Mobile-P…
10C Pro - https://support.sena.com/…/360015461512-10C-Pro-Second-Mobi…
20S - https://support.sena.com/…/360015946191-20S-EVO-Second-Mobi… (Uses the same method as the 20S Evo)
10S - https://support.sena.com/…/115005460866-10S-Second-Mobile-P…
10C - https://support.sena.com/…/art…/360016409811-10C-GPS-Pairing
10U - https://support.sena.com/…/115005530303-10U-Second-Mobile-P…
10R - https://support.sena.com/…/115005490466-10R-Second-Mobile-P…

"Second Phone Pairing Instructions"
10Upad - https://support.sena.com/…/360016348331-10Upad-Mobile-Phone…
20S Evo - https://support.sena.com/…/360015946211-20S-EVO-Mobile-Phon…
SRL - https://support.sena.com/…/360001041143-SRL-Mobile-Phone-Pa…
10C Pro - https://support.sena.com/…/360015659991-10C-Pro-Mobile-Phon…
20S - https://support.sena.com/…/360000925406-20S-Mobile-Phone-Pa…
10S - https://support.sena.com/…/115005460866-10S-Second-Mobile-P…
10C - https://support.sena.com/…/115005485223-10C-Mobile-Phone-Pa…
10U - https://support.sena.com/…/115005530243-10U-Mobile-Phone-Pa…
10R - https://support.sena.com/…/115005484163-10R-Mobile-Phone-Pa…

I hope this helps others out there.
 


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