2021 1290S

I was so impressed after the test I bought one. Oh, it's fun.

Excuse the question , but hows your arse after 275 miles as lots of reports note the seat is uncomfortable. I have booked a test on Monday and managed to get 1 to 2 hrs out but not sure on mileage but would imagine no more than 100 so on the edge of finding out.
At the moment on my GS i can ride for 3 to 4 hrs without issues say 130 to 150 before stops as normally refuel at that point. Happy new bike
 
I did 517 miles on my new SAS last Saturday, no problem with the seat but I do have an Airhawk fitted. I used to have the Airhawk on my 2012 GSA. Not much in it but I find the SAS more comfortable than the GSA.
 
I did 517 miles on my new SAS last Saturday, no problem with the seat but I do have an Airhawk fitted. I used to have the Airhawk on my 2012 GSA. Not much in it but I find the SAS more comfortable than the GSA.

Thanks for the info but I used the air hawk for a bit but found it disconnected me from the bike , I hope the seat without is better than some say . Cheers
 
Excuse the question , but hows your arse after 275 miles as lots of reports note the seat is uncomfortable. I have booked a test on Monday and managed to get 1 to 2 hrs out but not sure on mileage but would imagine no more than 100 so on the edge of finding out.
At the moment on my GS i can ride for 3 to 4 hrs without issues say 130 to 150 before stops as normally refuel at that point. Happy new bike

Hi Stick, on the test ride I did think the seat was a little firm but never felt any discomfort. On my bike it also felt firm, but has been completely comfortable over the last 2 days. The only thing I would suggest, if you can avoid it don't wear underwear with the seams that run just on your buttock line. Have fun, looking forward to your thoughts.
 
Hi Stick, on the test ride I did think the seat was a little firm but never felt any discomfort. On my bike it also felt firm, but has been completely comfortable over the last 2 days. The only thing I would suggest, if you can avoid it don't wear underwear with the seams that run just on your buttock line. Have fun, looking forward to your thoughts.

Cheers , I do wear the Lycra type Klim shorts so no seams , looking forward to the test . Blimey a 48 hr ride , titanium cheeks lol 😂
 
Had quick spin on one whilst my 1290 was being serviced and its not as different as some in the press claim - and how would they know when they probably have not ridden the old model since its launch 4 years ago, seems the just swallowed the KTM press pack at face value.

To me it is a bit like when I switched from 1190 to 1290 there are pros and cons, but more pros this time I would say.

The new engine is definitely a bit smoother, although maybe the difference seemed a bit bigger as it is so silent and my bike has an Akra, but no doubt it can pull from lower revs a bit better.

The suspension felt good, probably better, but not massivley IMHO, what is more important for me is the fine adjustments you can make, a real bugbear on my model is the 4 preload settings, the new one has a slider that goes from 0-100% in 10% increments - so 10 settings instead of 4, but it was set to 70% and I upped it to 80% without it feeling too hard / high so not so sure it has any more scope for 2 burly folk and luggage than old bike.

What I really liked is that you can adjust preload on the fly, very handy as I always set off with it in the last mode and if it needs changing I have to stop to do it. I was unable to test the dynamic setting and anti-dive adjustments as these are paid for extras not on demo bike - which I find a bit annoying as how do I know if they are worth the dosh if I cannot try them 1st, Dealers should either put them on demo's, or KTM offer a 2 week / 500 mile trial mode, easy enough in this day and age of electronic unlocks.

One big difference is that you sit in rather than on the bike, like a GS, will mean a lot more people can fit on it but for me less leg room, probably get some back with seat options, which reminds me, I managed over half an hour without the seat killing my arse, a new record for me!

On the road I think it's a bit more nimble and possibly hugs road better, maybe with more feedback but hard to be sure on short test ride on local roads, also it is on different tyres to my bike and tyres can make a huge difference in feel.

I found the lower seating position felt strange and as if the bike had collapsed at the rear - I am sure with more time / ownership it would feel natural, but initial impressions are I prefer the "Sat on" stance of mine (and the extra leg room)

TC seems to work a bit better and allows a bit more front wheel float under power and does not shut down power as abruptly, but a very minor point as it only really applies to full bore acceleration in 1st / 2nd, might also allow a bit better floating over crests but I did not get to test such behaviour.

Would love to see if the QS is improved as I would say mine is good rather than great (but much better than the "GS Quick shifter" as that is an oxymoron) Dissapontingly the QS is not on them demo bike, whereas the radar cruise is, I would much rather has the QS as standard, did not test the RADAR, sure it works fine but I find the normal cruise works well enough for me.

I am fairly certain there is less heat on legs with new rads, but it was not that hot during the ride, but I sat ticking over for a bit and managed to catch a red traffic light and pretty sure I would of felt more heat on mine.

Overall an improvement, pretty much as good or slightly better in every department, especially for anyone under 6 foot. Felt as if it has moved a shade more towards a GS and road bike.

Having done a weekend away on mine keeping up with mates K13's / XR's and Gixxers in the twisties and having all day comfort and no heat issues (with ambient temps of 20-22) I think I proved it is not worth the (C) £6k I would need to spend to upgrade my 2 year old / 8000 mile bike, but in a couple of years I may well go for one.

I think it will be a hit for KTM as current owners of 1x90's will like it and it is more likely than ever to lure GS riders, and other (not so tall) folk who fancy an adventure bike, or are looking to upgrade one, and with the MTS moving to a 19" front wheel it means those who buy bikes predominantly on wheel size won'r blindly go for the Ducati for that reason alone anymore.
 
Had quick spin on one whilst my 1290 was being serviced and its not as different as some in the press claim - and how would they know when they probably have not ridden the old model since its launch 4 years ago, seems the just swallowed the KTM press pack at face value.

To me it is a bit like when I switched from 1190 to 1290 there are pros and cons, but more pros this time I would say.

The new engine is definitely a bit smoother, although maybe the difference seemed a bit bigger as it is so silent and my bike has an Akra, but no doubt it can pull from lower revs a bit better.

The suspension felt good, probably better, but not massivley IMHO, what is more important for me is the fine adjustments you can make, a real bugbear on my model is the 4 preload settings, the new one has a slider that goes from 0-100% in 10% increments - so 10 settings instead of 4, but it was set to 70% and I upped it to 80% without it feeling too hard / high so not so sure it has any more scope for 2 burly folk and luggage than old bike.

What I really liked is that you can adjust preload on the fly, very handy as I always set off with it in the last mode and if it needs changing I have to stop to do it. I was unable to test the dynamic setting and anti-dive adjustments as these are paid for extras not on demo bike - which I find a bit annoying as how do I know if they are worth the dosh if I cannot try them 1st, Dealers should either put them on demo's, or KTM offer a 2 week / 500 mile trial mode, easy enough in this day and age of electronic unlocks.

One big difference is that you sit in rather than on the bike, like a GS, will mean a lot more people can fit on it but for me less leg room, probably get soem back with seat options, which reminds me, I managed over half an hour without the seat killing my arse, a new record for me!

On the road I think it's a bit more nimble and possibly hugs road better, maybe with more feedback but hard to be sure on short test ride on local roads, also on different tyres to my bike, but I found the lower seating position felt strange and as if the bike had collapsed at the rear - I am sure more time and it would feel natural, but initial impressions are I prefer the "Sat on" stance of mine.

TC seems to work a bit better and allows a bit more front wheel float under power and does not shut down power as abruptly, but a very minor point as it only really applies to full bore acceleration in 1st / 2nd, might also allow a bit better floating over crests but I did not get to test such behaviour.

Would love to see if QS improved as I would say mine is good rather than great (but much better than the "GS Quick shifter" as that is an oxymoron. Dissapontingly not on demo bike, whereas the radar cruise is, I would much rather has the QS as standard, did not test the RADAR, sure it works fine but I find the normal cruise works well enough for me.

I am fairly certain there is less heat on legs with new rads, but it was not that hot during the ride, but I sat ticking over for a bit and managed to catch a red traffic light and pretty sure I would of felt more heat on mine.

Overall an improvement, pretty much as good or slightly better in every department, especially for anyone under 6 foot. Felt as if it has moved a shade more towards a GS and road bike.

Having done a weekend away on mine keeping up with mates K13's / XR's and Gixxers in the twisties and having all day comfort and no heat issues (with ambient temps of 20-22) I think I proved it is not worth the (C) £6k I would need to spend to upgrade my 2 year old / 8000 mile bike, but in a couple of years I may well go for one.

I think it will be a hit for KTM as current owners of 1x90's will like it and it is more likely than ever to lure GS riders, and other (not so tall) folk who fancy an adventure bike, or are looking to upgrade one.

Did you not notice an improvement in the overall balance and handling of the bike ?
Not ridden the new bike but the pannier tanks were a revelation on the 790 and most reviews comment on this as being the main upgrade , yet you don’t even mention it ?
 
I've now done around 500mls on mine, it' very ,very good. As a short arse rider, 29" inseam, one of the things that did appeal was the fact that I could set the preload at 0% and almost flat foot the bike. Gaining a bit of experience with it I now have the preload set at 70%, I'm on my tiptoes but the bike is so well balanced I feel more than comfortable, it's also very easy to turn in tight circles and easy to approach junctions without having to put your feet down. jacking the back up does make it turn slightly quicker, but to be honest I think that it would only be of real benefit on a track, the bikes skills are way beyond mine. I have'nt ridden it in the rain yet but I find myself popping it into rain mode ,just to steady me up a bit. Tried the adaptive cc but it frightened me to death, a very weird feeling. For me one other outstanding aspect of the bike is the fueling. I don't believe I've ever ridden a bike that you can approach a junction in 2nd gear slow to walking pace and pull smoothly away, without pulling or feathering the clutch, it's quite incredible. It's a bloody cracking bike.
 
After 1,900 miles I can’t say I’m a fan of either Rain or Street modes, prefer to leave it in Sport mode for a much more direct throttle response. Possibly this is due to the being my first bike with a ‘fly by wire’ throttle, I prefer it do be similar to a cable with a direct response from the engine in line with throttle use. It is a very well balanced bike, easy to trickle along in traffic. The turning circle isn’t as good as either of my GS’s but only noticeable when doing a u-turn to back the bike into the garage. Generally keep the preload at around 50% and the suspension in Auto unless pressing on, then it’s into Sport mode and 70% preload. So far I’m very impressed with the bike, indicators took a bit of getting used to but seem to have the knack now. The bike handling is very similar to a GS but the engine is in a different league possibly too much, if there is such a thing, on the road. Beautiful thing about having too much power is that you don’t have to use it, but it’s there if you want to.
 
Had quick spin on one whilst my 1290 was being serviced and its not as different as some in the press claim - and how would they know when they probably have not ridden the old model since its launch 4 years ago, seems the just swallowed the KTM press pack at face value.

To me it is a bit like when I switched from 1190 to 1290 there are pros and cons, but more pros this time I would say.

The new engine is definitely a bit smoother, although maybe the difference seemed a bit bigger as it is so silent and my bike has an Akra, but no doubt it can pull from lower revs a bit better.



funny how press is going mad about these, somehow they seem to have really caught the imagination. I do quite a bit of mountain biking and sometimes a brand becomes flavour of the month for no specific reason.

I do wonder how many testers have ridden the old one...... in terms of fuelling, my 2017 (which, admittedly,has been mapped by a bloke of top of a hill - let's not go into that debate - and has an Arrow can) pulls 4th smoothly from just under 30mph, and 6th from 50mph - how does that compare to the new one? must try to get a test ride to see for myself..... think new one looks better though
 
Talking of looks, do we have any paint sprayers in here?

It seems you can't get the stickers for the S model, only fitted to the grey or orange panels complete.

I would like to convert my bike to look like they R model at some point, but having noticed that the orange panels on the S are lacquered, I started to wonder whether it's acceptable to get the mat grey panels lacquered. Sounds like a massively cheaper option that may well improve the looks of the bike no, end for me anyway. Not a big fan of mat colours as they don't scratch well and you can see every mark on them.

Assume it would be ok to over paint mat grey and the S stickers. Advice?


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Did you not notice an improvement in the overall balance and handling of the bike ?
Not ridden the new bike but the pannier tanks were a revelation on the 790 and most reviews comment on this as being the main upgrade , yet you don’t even mention it ?

I did say it feels a bit more nimble, maybe lower tanks, maybe head angle, possibly a bit of both - but the demo bike was low on fuel (fuel light came on during ride) and the level in my bike was similar, so perhaps had I ridden there / back witha full tank and the demo had a full tank as well then it might have been more noticeable....

...But I still do not think it is a huge difference on the move as I don't notice myself having any handling problems when I fill up my tank, but might be a lot better at low "wobbling speeds" or wheeling bike about the garage with a full tank.

And how can anyone be sure the pannier tanks are such a revelation on the 790 as there was no previous model without them?

I remember Honda experimented with underslung tanks in GP's back in the 80's, all they achieved was snapping a front wheel, they went back to conventional and every GP and WSB racer ever since has used the traditonal tank arrangement.

I do wonder if "Most Reviews" are written based on what people have read from the spec sheet / KTM propoganda etc and then say "Oh, sure, I really noticed the new tank design made a difference and how much faster it steers due to the 0.6 degree change in headstock angle". perhaps much better riders than me can really feel such differences, or maybe I forgot to turn on my Placebo Affect generator that morning?

One thing I do notice on mine is the bike swaying from side to side when you stop with an almost full tank - would imagine the new one does that less, and I am sure it also means less undesireable moving of high up weight when carving through bends, again not sure I am capable of noticing such small differences anyway.
 
I spent a portion of Thursday night watching a YouTube video on the difficulty a SAS owner had in getting hold of a pair of radiator guards, the ones that are available for the R version but not seemingly offered open the S. I thought to myself I must get some as with every other bike I have owned the first thing I have done is fitted radiator guards.

Friday saw a group of us set out at 0615 from Clitheroe for the annual solstice North Coast Run, a 550 mile A road trip to Durness, first time since the first lock down. I imagine my irritation on arrival at Durness to spot this! I must have happened less than three miles or so from the destination as my boot was wet but the coolant level hadn't dropped noticeably.

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So it was time to call KTM RAC assist who only wanted to take toe bike to Perth and the nearest KTM dealer, around 300 miles from my home, fortunately I also has RAC cover via my bank so the same recover agent from Brora came and my SAS is now on the way back to Yorkshire ready for a £200 plus fitting radiator.

The RAC were OK given I as on the north coast of Scotland on a Saturday - it took a good few phone calls to sort everything and they seemed determined that they had a budget of £150 to get me home! They wanted to send me on a train with all my camping kit and bike kit which I pointed out wasn't;t going to work! In the end I had two and half hour taxi ride to Enterprise in Inverness then a hire car from there home, got back at 11:30 last night

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If you can find a pair of radiator guards then get some - I'm looking now - probably get the dealer to order a pair of the R ones if they are available. Touratech do some but there seems to be a three week wait!

I reckon radiator protection should be standard - KTM isn't the only offender GS's come with exposed radiators and for the sake of a cheap plastic moulding so much hassle could be saved!
 
Bummer Discoed, my first thought was a pair of guards. Touratech site says 3 months. I'm off to Wales next week and am slightly concerned. Just wondering if I could make a pair of GS guards fit? Although if they are available for the R, I can't see them being any different for the S. My RAC recovery states 'to any address in the UK' I'd best have a closer look.
 
Bummer Discoed, my first thought was a pair of guards. Touratech site says 3 months. I'm off to Wales next week and am slightly concerned. Just wondering if I could make a pair of GS guards fit? Although if they are available for the R, I can't see them being any different for the S. My RAC recovery states 'to any address in the UK' I'd best have a closer look.

Powerbronze have some left - I have just purchased a pair.....and the KTM ones fit the S too
 
Epoxy putty is your friend.......you'd have been on your way again in 30 minutes
 
Epoxy putty is your friend.......you'd have been on your way again in 30 minutes

Quite! It's not the miracle they claim bit would've easily fixed the issue you had.

First time I came across this was fixing an old oil boiler heat exchanger. It was still doing its job 2 months later when the new one arrived.

https://howesmodels.co.uk/product/m...MI_pKChuu48QIVTLDtCh2V-QCfEAQYEiABEgIGHfD_BwE

I always carry some on road / off road / touring. A real get you out of jail product.

Be interested to know if science has progressed these days and whether there's something even better.


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These are the guards for the R version. £32 a pair.
 

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Epoxy putty is your friend.......you'd have been on your way again in 30 minutes

Will it work with a soaking wet radiator?

I would of thought you would need to drain coolant and get it all dry before applying? If not then I really should get some of that stuff!
 


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