This made me check my camper policy and I find the Green Card is attached to the bottom of my policy and covers the whole 12 months of the policy. Thanks for the reminder though.
Post Brexit - Green card
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An update. I contacted ERS (former Hiscox) who confirmed that they will issue me with a ‘lifetime of the policy’ green card, at no charge. This is obviously more efficient for them and for me. A win-win, as they say.
That’s it. All set for European travel, just as soon as the shackles are off.
That’s it. All set for European travel, just as soon as the shackles are off.
Just took out an Axa policy via Bemoto. They will issue a Green Card for free but the wording on the back of my certificate says:
I was told I need to give them the dates I am going abroad, just like the olden days, to activate cover above the minimum level
I was told I need to give them the dates I am going abroad, just like the olden days, to activate cover above the minimum level
As it's a multi bike, I have 3 pieces of paper, one for each bike, called an International Motor Insurance Card, written in English and also in foreign. It's valid for the full 1 year period of the insurance, 21/05/21-21/05/22.
It has Country Code and GB Insurers number, then the usual grid with country codes on, with some crossed out, so I'm covered across the EU plus Serbia, Switzerland, Iceland, Norway, etc.
No mention is made of a 90 day limit.
Oddly the Certificate(s) of Insurance also contain wording to the effect:
"This Certificate takes the place of an International Green Card for the EU plus Norway, Andorra, Iceland etc." It then says the same in a number of different sorts of foreign.
It sounds like BeMoto are planning on dealing with it the same way that ERS were, with separate ‘Green cards’ for each vehicle for each specific crossing. We have been told on these pages that this is not an inconvenience and a price worth paying to stop Albanians stealing things from the Pound Sop in Grimsby. That the opinion also came from bods who do not have the slightest intention of ever driving abroad in or on their own vehicle, devalued it considerably.
The limitation of meeting only the minimum standards was not uncommon under a lot of Motor policies in the UK, prior to and post Brexit. That was / is sufficient to meet the letter of the law in say, France, Italy, Sweden or Switzerland, ie. meeting their equivalent of the local Road Traffic Act, that we have in the UK. What the policies sometimes didn’t do automatically was extend to provide the ‘Fully comprehensive’ cover the rider enjoyed in the UK. That wouldn’t bother the local constabulary that much.
What I think we are seeing is a glitch, where modern UK motor policies still extend liability cover into the EU and other specific countries (the old ones, prior the the very useful Freedom of Services provision, didn’t) being married to the old fashioned green card, which confirmed / provided the cover in the past. In short, an unhappy, fudged together solution.
To be honest, I think that it would take a very earnest local Portuguese copper to give anyone a tug for not having a ‘green card’ (which isn’t green any more) when their UK insurance extended to include the minimum cover required under local law. The same would be the case for a Portuguese driver pulled over by a copper in Grimsby. How many Grimsby coppers can read Portuguese or know what a Portuguese green card even looks like? Anders on a small postcard to the usual address.
It might be interesting to hear what action is being taken by say, French or Spanish insurers, for UKGSer members living in France or Spain. What happens if they wish to hoon to Grimsby.... as unlikely as that might ever be.
Thank you. That is what I have asked ERS to give me. Open ended documents, one for each vehicle insured under the policy.
I guess the 90 day limitation - if indeed there is one - might well have more to do with international law as regards non-EU vehicles driving around for longer than 90 days within an EU country, after which they might require an official import licence? But now I am just guessing. But hey, 90 days is three months, which is more than adequate for most bods’ holidays off work.
I'am fairly sure you have to inform your insurers regardless of green cards or anything else; just standard arse covering stuff; an e mail would do;;
It's something i have always done everytime i've been abroad on the bike.
If it says in your policy that you have to inform your insurer about foreign use, then you have to. So do it.
If it doesn’t, then you don’t have to. So don’t, unless you feel you must.
It is that simple.
If it doesn’t, then you don’t have to. So don’t, unless you feel you must.
It is that simple.
Yes I've had green cards too - Balkans, Turkey, Morocco etc.
But we are now back to the loss of freedoms with fixed periods and itineraries.
Maybe it's just me but I am unable to see the slightest benefit to make up for this loss.
I accept it may not be on some peeps radar but the loss of freedoms is a big thing to me.
Just saying ......... and whinging.
Yes, you and I used to be citizens of the EU and therefore 28 countries. Some people thought it was a good idea to take that away and all the rights that go with it.
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Absolutely, but there is one point worth correcting. That point about free trade. It was the Uk government (the May government as it happens) that chose not to be part of the single market and/or customs union. Nothing to do with sulking French and Germans.
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the square root of FUCK ALL,
Because team remain couldn’t articulate a decent believable argument. The brexit team did and won.
That was never necessary. Your UK insurance was always valid for legal purposes in all countries of the EU.
Fortunately that's not the case anymore and we now have the sovereign obligation to ask our insurers for permission.
Funny how remain arguments have become more credible whilst the leave dreams have crumbled into dust....
And yet the so called informed, didn’t have the ability to convince the so called thick voters.
Maybe not that clever, or not that good of a point to argue?
I have been really fortunate.
I’ve managed to survive the collapse of Sterling that George Osbourne threatened would happen at least three times
1) the day after the vote,
2)the day that we left
3)the day that the transition period ended.
And thank feck that we just about managed to struggle through those dreadful food shortages.
Yep, bleeding ignorant easily led bastids who voted out.
Perhaps we can try to rejoin again one day
15 squid for a GC from Bennetts. Hey ho!
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