Boxerlust,
I have had 3xGSes. 2x1200 and a 1250. I ride them reasonably quickly and have been a big advocate of Telelever as it has a number of good features. It also has a number of downsides. But I am feeling Chrismassy and of good spirit, so a couple of things to address your comments above:
1. The GS handlebars are wider than that of the R. Wider by almost 10cm IIRC, which is a lot, and it means a significant leverage advantage tipping in. But because of the larger 19” front wheel and taller height of the GS and position of handlebars to the ground and front axle, the additional leverage is necessary. Do not mistake the ease of turn-in for greater agility.
2. Telelever has nothing to do with side-to-side agility. It only affects the vertical motion of the bike.
3. Narrower bars = lower leverage = greater rider input needed. Going from the GS to the R demands significantly more rider input and pressure on the bars to initiate a turn and hold a line. Again, do not mistake this for lower agility. It simply demands greater input - and if YOU are used to the leverage of a GS, you WILL find the R harder to initiate a turn. Many on wide handlebar riders (like a GS) pull their handlebars which is not ideal but OK for slow manoeuvres. Practice your counter steering more
4. Getting on the throttle early out of a bend has nothing to do with Telelever. Paralever helps here, but all BMW shaftdrive bikes have Paralever.
5. Geometry plays a big part in agility which you fail to mention, perhaps out of ignorance. Ride an R vs RS and a GS vs GSA and the rake and trail makes a huge difference, as does length of swingarm etc. Superbikes have adjustable headstock tubes for this very reason. A small difference goes a long way.
6. My Ducati 1098R has more torque than the 1250 over a wider rev range and even narrower width clipons… it is lighter too by about 55kg. Oh and it has traditional USD forks. It leans with more ground clearance than a Boxer will, and is still faster than a GS or R. A lot faster.
7. The GS is a good bike, Telelever has some good benefits (I’ve enjoyed 3 of them), but… since you think ‘going fast’ has some equation to being ‘better’, then until the likes of MotoGP adopt the Hosack/Telelever suspension design, I suggest you stop talking your pseudo-engineering/magazine bullshit. You want 1300/1400 for more power/torque… your constant craving for more power suggests your riding ability needs some improvement. No one here buys your crap.
Merry Christmas!
Now back to the OPs bike…
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