2022 T7
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Remembering the previous Tenere 660 never changed at all other than colours I don't expect Yamaha to do bi annual updates like other manufactures.
It seems to me that Yamaha are very happy to go down their own chosen route and not the constant two year chase like BMW/KTM/Honda etc they have their MT range which saved their business (yes this subject has already been discussed and questioned but tis true)
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I believe it’s £500 increase , certainly some dealers are quoting £11k , the 2021 rally is £10.5k
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Too dear now
2022 price over here increased from $9,999 + $430 freight to $10,299 + $430 freight + $100 freight surcharge, so $10,829 now.
But this is just the suggested price a dealer should sell one for (he of course is free to sell for whatever he wants). After that we have to add whatever taxes and license plate costs which goes to the State you reside in. To more accurately compare to your "all-in" price which include all taxes and license plate (if I understand correctly) an "all-in" price for a 2022 T700 in West Virginia would probably be full price on the bike because there is still more demand for this bike than supply, so:
$10,829
100 bull shit fee, which they'll call a "doc" for filling out the sales documents, so $10,929 for the dealer.
656 WV 6% sales tax
15 WV for title of ownership
16 WV for 1 year license plate
$11,616
I believe dealers here(UK) are restricted to mrrp both in car and bikes through their franchise agreement , I did read an article about a Ford dealer in the US adding $20K for the latest & in short supply Mach E GT , perfectly legal nothing Ford could do about it 
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You are correct George dealers are free to set their own price. Manufacturers, distributors, etc., can sell their products for whatever price they want, to dealers (or individuals for that matter). But they can't attach strings fixing a price on subsequent sales, I guess that would be considered "price fixing". They can "suggest" what the dealers should sell for which is referred to as manufacture suggested retail price or MSRP. Other than Tesla, who markets their cars direct, I don't know of any other car or motorcycle manufacturer that can control retail prices. Of course this pits dealer against dealer competition which some dealers don't like. And as in your example it goes both ways, dealers are free to gouge as well as discount.
For example from the mid 1970's up until around 2000, when Skip died, there was a Honda motorcycle dealer, Skip's Honda, located in a large warehouse outside a small town in northeastern West Virginia that for years was one of (many years "the") largest volume Honda dealer in the country typically selling over 500 per month. He bought Hondas by the full truckload to get free shipping and usually a couple trucks every week, often more in Spring and Summer. He was the only salesperson (order taker really) with his daughter and two other ladys doing the sales paperwork. While his customers came from all over the US east coast, his main base drew from northern VA and DC roughly 100 miles east. No dealer would or could match his price which was very simple, every sale was the same, no freight and $100 over dealer cost. All the Honda dealers in the region complained to Honda North America that they can't compete with Skip's and Honda NA needed to do something about him. One relatively slow weekday I was there chatting with Skip and asked if Honda ever pressured him to quit discounting so much?
He said "oh yeah all the time, Honda's always sending in new sales representatives and they generally say something like Skip you need to increase your selling price otherwise I'll have to start restricting how many units you can buy. I just point to that (pointing to the large Honda sign outside) and say that's the only sign I have, you do that and that'll be a Yamaha sign." No way a sales representative wants to be the one to tell Honda NA "I just lost Skip's to Yamaha".
Unfortunately given the current shortages here now most sales are MSRP or higher.
For example from the mid 1970's up until around 2000, when Skip died, there was a Honda motorcycle dealer, Skip's Honda, located in a large warehouse outside a small town in northeastern West Virginia that for years was one of (many years "the") largest volume Honda dealer in the country typically selling over 500 per month. He bought Hondas by the full truckload to get free shipping and usually a couple trucks every week, often more in Spring and Summer. He was the only salesperson (order taker really) with his daughter and two other ladys doing the sales paperwork. While his customers came from all over the US east coast, his main base drew from northern VA and DC roughly 100 miles east. No dealer would or could match his price which was very simple, every sale was the same, no freight and $100 over dealer cost. All the Honda dealers in the region complained to Honda North America that they can't compete with Skip's and Honda NA needed to do something about him. One relatively slow weekday I was there chatting with Skip and asked if Honda ever pressured him to quit discounting so much?
He said "oh yeah all the time, Honda's always sending in new sales representatives and they generally say something like Skip you need to increase your selling price otherwise I'll have to start restricting how many units you can buy. I just point to that (pointing to the large Honda sign outside) and say that's the only sign I have, you do that and that'll be a Yamaha sign." No way a sales representative wants to be the one to tell Honda NA "I just lost Skip's to Yamaha".
Unfortunately given the current shortages here now most sales are MSRP or higher.
Word has it the T7 RR will be available in June/July 22, in a subdued road version, basically double saddle bag tanks, bigger fairing, tft and switchgear, steering damper, everything else as per the T7. Looks like it’ll be a tad top heavy and seemingly no cruise control, tubeless wheels and a more comfy seat.
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Just over £8K new a while back (2019)
I have tubeless wheels , comfy concepts seat and a crude cruise control.
I am sure they will be north of £10K.Too expensive
I have tubeless wheels , comfy concepts seat and a crude cruise control.
I am sure they will be north of £10K.Too expensive
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