Planning going East via the 'Stans, Pamir Highway, and maybe onto India.

Hi Snowy, thanks for that too.
I read on Journal for Nomads that Iran doesn't like independent travellers and prefers people in groups, possibly made worse by their large motorcycles only on a Friday rule.
It's getting complicated, but the worse it gets to sort out, the more I want to do it-no, the more I'm determined to do it.
I'll update when I have info on Iran, Pakistan and India. I feel some emails to theor embassies coming on.

Large motorcycles only on a Friday?
It's my 60th next year and I'd really like to go to Iran on the bike. I'd hoped to ride there via Turkey but read somewhere (on this site I think) that Iran has a rule barring anyone on a bike over 125cc from crossing the border. Apparently it's been the law for years but they started implementing it around 2018 - 2019. The Foreign Office website advice about visiting Iran didn't make for particularly pleasant reading either.
I'm considering either flying to Turkey and hiring a bike and guide with a bike to take me into Iran or seeing if I can find a company based in Iran who offer guided motorcycle tours.
Yours sounds like a fantastic trip, I'm very jealous.
 
Large motorcycles only on a Friday?
It's my 60th next year and I'd really like to go to Iran on the bike. I'd hoped to ride there via Turkey but read somewhere (on this site I think) that Iran has a rule barring anyone on a bike over 125cc from crossing the border. Apparently it's been the law for years but they started implementing it around 2018 - 2019. The Foreign Office website advice about visiting Iran didn't make for particularly pleasant reading either.
I'm considering either flying to Turkey and hiring a bike and guide with a bike to take me into Iran or seeing if I can find a company based in Iran who offer guided motorcycle tours.
Yours sounds like a fantastic trip, I'm very jealous.

Yes Iran was on my love to do list. I've had to put it off as I only have a UK passport. This means that I would have to hire an escort to be with me - expensive.

Peter Cullen (mentioned above by Timolgra); I know very well and he has the luxury of an Irish passport which removes the escort problem in Iran and gives him unlimited travel through the EU.
 
Yes Iran was on my love to do list. I've had to put it off as I only have a UK passport. This means that I would have to hire an escort to be with me - expensive.

Peter Cullen (mentioned above by Timolgra); I know very well and he has the luxury of an Irish passport which removes the escort problem in Iran and gives him unlimited travel through the EU.

That's interesting. I too have an Irish passport though I like the idea of a guide to show me around and generally make things easier.
 
That's interesting. I too have an Irish passport though I like the idea of a guide to show me around and generally make things easier.

You lucky lucky chap ...... an Irish passport. :thumb

It's not so much a guide. UK and US passports require the escort to monitor you - same as China and it's expensive.
 
Hi all, this is still on but my wife has recently been diagnosed with cancer and I firstly wanted to know (assuming that she is "cured") if that has implications for travelling ie nomad insurance and the like.
It has focused our minds on getting out there as life suddenly looks all too bloody short.
However, although my preferred route would have been Iran, Pakistan, India, it now looks very much like the 'Stans and China will be our preferred route as I don't fancy my chances in Iran, even if I were to get into Iran in the first place due to passport being British.
 
Hi all, this is still on but my wife has recently been diagnosed with cancer and I firstly wanted to know (assuming that she is "cured") if that has implications for travelling ie nomad insurance and the like.
It has focused our minds on getting out there as life suddenly looks all too bloody short.
However, although my preferred route would have been Iran, Pakistan, India, it now looks very much like the 'Stans and China will be our preferred route as I don't fancy my chances in Iran, even if I were to get into Iran in the first place due to passport being British.

I really wish you all the best with this, and more importantly , hope that your wife gets through the cancer hurdle and that you can both complete what you have set in your minds to do.

My partner of almost 38 years had to deal with a form of cancer 5 years ago...multiple visits to consultants and surgery, including radiotherapy, seemed to destroy the nasty fucker and life went on. We have travelled together for 5 weeks each year, including the Covid years, but we would love to travel across the Stans and Mongolia together at some point.

The world has definitely shrunk, in terms of where we can actively travel to / through now, but hang in there and keep planning :thumb2
 
Mspenz, many thanks for your kind words. The planning continues, as it must.
So for anyone that is contemplating such a journey, I have so many questions and the GS community is defo the most adventurous and helpful.

Whereas I realise that there will be the inevitable gravel/dirt roads in places, I don't really have intention to go on any roads apart from asphalt unless speed dictates, besides India I'm sure will offer plenty.
In planning my first part in central Asia (the route via Europe to Azerbaijan-Baku and ferry across Caspian Sea to Aktau) seems faily straightforward, but once in Aktau, the obvious metalled road is slightly north on A33 and E121 to Beneu, the south on the E40 towards Uzbekistan, a little long winded perhaps, but I will have my wife on pillion and she'll feel happier, I know, on "proper" roads.

Does anyone see any potential problem with this route? Any suggestions?
Thanks in advance.
 
Couple of thoughts…

I suspect it’s going to be a long time before you can get a bike into western China, especially Xinjiang province, so that will have an impact on any eventual route. Of course, it may be a while before you can get into China at all!

When I did Globebusters London-Beijing, Uzbekistan (Silk Road cities) and Tajikistan (Wakhan Valley) were the highlight countries. Be a shame to miss them. The Wakhan is a dirt route but perfectly possible two-up on a big bike.
 
Couple of thoughts…

I suspect it’s going to be a long time before you can get a bike into western China, especially Xinjiang province, so that will have an impact on any eventual route. Of course, it may be a while before you can get into China at all!

When I did Globebusters London-Beijing, Uzbekistan (Silk Road cities) and Tajikistan (Wakhan Valley) were the highlight countries. Be a shame to miss them. The Wakhan is a dirt route but perfectly possible two-up on a big bike.

Thanks richardbd, what's happening with China at the moment? Is it because of the Ukraine conflict?
Without getting into China's western province, I'm not getting into India.
Clearly Afghanistan is off the menu, as is Iran, so without China, we're not going anywhere towards India. We could of course fly to India, and buy a R.E. Himalayan, but my wife doesn't have a licence, so that'll be two up on a 400cc bike plus luggage-not ideal, but doable. Besides, like most here, I bought my adv bike to do long distance trips.
The world is shrinking (in terms of where we can go)!
 
I'm very sorry to hear about your wife's diagnosis, all the best going forward for you all.

Regarding the route, I have been watching it for 4 years now as I've had to postpone my trip to Mongolia via the 'Stans 3 times (all 3 times because of covid and borders being closed).

I've pushed my trip back to next summer now but I'm still convinced I'll be able to go. The ferry across the Caspian Sea still appears to be closed to 'tourists' and also the border between Tajikistan and Kyrgyzstan is mainly closed due to fighting between the two countries over yet another dispute along the border (sometimes it opens but the fighting starts again and they're closed once more). I also need to pop into Russia for a very short time to get from Kazakhstan to Mongolia but can't see that happening for a while either. I never considered China as an option due to the costs involved so can't really help with that.

The route down through Uzbekistan is the same one I would be taking too. Lots of potholes apparently (quite a few stories of damaged rims etc) and a stretch of about 500km without a petrol station. It is available in villages but you have to ask and eventually someone will appear with it canisters and plastic bottles.
 
I'm very sorry to hear about your wife's diagnosis, all the best going forward for you all.

Regarding the route, I have been watching it for 4 years now as I've had to postpone my trip to Mongolia via the 'Stans 3 times (all 3 times because of covid and borders being closed).

I've pushed my trip back to next summer now but I'm still convinced I'll be able to go. The ferry across the Caspian Sea still appears to be closed to 'tourists' and also the border between Tajikistan and Kyrgyzstan is mainly closed due to fighting between the two countries over yet another dispute along the border (sometimes it opens but the fighting starts again and they're closed once more). I also need to pop into Russia for a very short time to get from Kazakhstan to Mongolia but can't see that happening for a while either. I never considered China as an option due to the costs involved so can't really help with that.

The route down through Uzbekistan is the same one I would be taking too. Lots of potholes apparently (quite a few stories of damaged rims etc) and a stretch of about 500km without a petrol station. It is available in villages but you have to ask and eventually someone will appear with it canisters and plastic bottles.

Thanks Snowy, I seem to remember a post of yours about Mongolia, good luck with it.
It's a shame that with all the tech out there, there isn't a street view of some of these roads, but then who'd take a Smart car across Uzbekistan?
I remember watching a ride report on Prime TV-Himalaya Calling about two Germans (on Super Teneres funnily enough) going across the Steppe and I assumed that they had taken the dirt road on purpose, as they'd done it before.
It seems that's not the case from what you say, at least partly.
They managed to get a puncture from what looked like a 4" crampet and in the end had to take the wheel off, now I know I'll have to take tools and be a bit handy, but hadn't imagined having to go that far to keep the bike running-one of those sticky rope repairs is what I had in mind.

With regards to China, I thought that we'd probably meet people either at the border or along the way or on internet to share the cost, but ultimately it has to be done as I'm not going through Iran. But as you say, that's not possible anyway.
We now have a more intense want to travel, my wife and I, given events, and it's really frustrating seeing all these ride reports and not being able to go anywhere.

Having said that, I have to be careful what ride reports I watch with my wife as some of them might put her off. we've been watching an entertaining Sydney to London RR channel on You Tube called North and Left a bit, and they eventually get stuck in Kyrgystan and have to abandon their bikes due to multiple punctures and clutch problems on their Suzuki 650's, apart from some of the roads being not just dirt tracks but deeply rutted and precipices to the side (I think that was Wakhan valley).

Regarding repairs at the side of the road, 'll take inner tubes as emergency, but as my S10 is tubeless as I suspect your GS's are, imagined repairing punctures with the rope thing as I had no intention of removing wheels.
If you guys think that's an important skill set, I'll have to buckle down to learning.
 
You'll have no choice but to take the wheels off and fit a tube when you ding a wheel rim on a pot hole so be prepared for it.
 
Or ship your bike to Namibia (roro ferry goes there) and travel round Africa. I was quoted £1350 one way for a Hilux for 2023 travel.

If you're not committed to certain countries but are after an adventure, other places to consider.
 
Or ship your bike to Namibia (roro ferry goes there) and travel round Africa. I was quoted £1350 one way for a Hilux for 2023 travel.

If you're not committed to certain countries but are after an adventure, other places to consider.

This is a good suggestion. Having had so many travel plans curtailed, I've just come back from a two-month Nairobi - Cape Town trip, crossing Namibia along the way. Plenty of adventure there...
 
Thanks guys, or ship my bike to India? I don't fancy buying/renting a 410cc Himalayan two up with luggage.
Africa I have no interest in seeing I'm afraid.
 
This is a good suggestion. Having had so many travel plans curtailed, I've just come back from a two-month Nairobi - Cape Town trip, crossing Namibia along the way. Plenty of adventure there...

Some nice country between those places. Did you ship a vehicle in/out?
 


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