Tour in early May around Brittany, Normandy and Pays de Loire

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Never done oversea tours and 3 of us will be doing a week in France. So many routes and recommendations here we can get some great riding in.

We thought we would have some routes planned but some days may go longer or finish early. So the plan was not to book any hotels, just turn up and see what is available.

Any one done this and is it risky getting rooms in May?

Rich
 
Have people gone to those areas of France in May? Yes, not least those that live there.

Have people gone without booking hotels, as they don’t know where they’ll be and want to ‘wing it?’ Yes.

Will it be risky? On a scale of 1 to 10, where 1 is guessing what time it is and 10 is defusing an atomic bomb with no instructions and a bent screwdriver….. about 1.1 on a bad day. Rising to 1.68 if every other bikermate between Caen and Quimper has the same idea and 1.83 or even 9.9 if your two riding chums think it is the most stupid idea they have ever heard of.
 
A week for these 3 areas is not enough.... unless you are just hammering from location to location. Why not make it more relaxing, just do Normandy as a starter for example. Base in Bayeux which is a lovely town and a great base, maybe plan the landing beaches and some of the big WW2 museums dotted all over Normandy, also the British, American and German cemeteries which are very poignant by the way. Plan day or half day trips to Deauville, Honfleur, Cherbourg, Mont Saint-Michel etc, Caen is a nice city as well for a half day out.

Loads to do and see without just hammering up and down toll roads, would recommend a Michelin Normandy map which costs about a fiver for helping planning of good routes.... Wapping will probably have some good ones saved somewhere
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A week for these 3 areas is not enough.... unless you are just hammering from location to location. Why not make it more relaxing, just do Normandy as a starter for example. Base in Bayeux which is a lovely town and a great base, maybe plan the landing beaches and some of the big WW2 museums dotted all over Normandy, also the British, American and German cemeteries which are very poignant by the way. Plan day or half day trips to Deauville, Honfleur, Cherbourg, Mont Saint-Michel etc, Caen is a nice city as well for a half day out.

Loads to do and see without just hammering up and down toll roads, would recommend a Michelin Normandy map which costs about a fiver for helping planning of good routes.... Wapping will probably have some good ones saved somewhere
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No pressure on Wapping. Again.
Here's a start https://www.ride.co.uk/ride-guide-to-france
https://www.ride.co.uk/magazine-routes/routes-from-ride-magazine
 
Let’s start right at the beginning.

A. Where and when (ie. time) do you arrive in France?

B. From where and when do depart from France?

I ask this only in as much as some people say they have a week but it sometimes turns out to be only five full days.

C. What made you chose the three areas?

D. Is one or even two of the three the most important ‘must do’’? Or do you want to do all three?

E. Is there something or anything you and your chums want to do? Or is it just simply that you want to ride about until you have had enough, then find a hotel?
 
If you have a smartphone and roaming data then booking hotels is really easy on the day. You will probably have an idea in the late afternoon of how much further you want to travel, so book somewhere ahead whilst you have a comfort stop.

It wasn't that hard before smartphones and booking apps. Many towns had a tourist office you could drop into to find a room.

I suggest doing a bit of research and consultation before travelling. Find out if your mates want to share a room as cheap as possible or have something of a better standard. You can get a room for 3 for 35 euros but it's like sharing a prison cell and will be located on an industrial estate or autoroute junction. You will have a Buffalo Grill or other chain restaurant nearby.

For me, I look for hotels in the Logis or Brithotel group. They are independent hotels that subscribe to the marketing and branding. Many have regional restaurants of a decent standard and are what I would call mid-price.

Once you have agreed on price, single or shared rooms etc then you can filter the booking site search accordingly. Better to get these things sorted out in advance rather than find out a mate baulks at paying 80 euros for a room and 35 euros for the regional set menu.
 
Thanks for all your points, it really helps the planning.

But the key question would you just ride and hope to find a hotel or book them in advance?

I like the idea of not being to a schedule, but would hate to get to the end of a days riding and then worrying if we can find a hote.

Defiantly going to look into those routes.

Rich
 
Thanks for all your points, it really helps the planning.

But the key question would you just ride and hope to find a hotel or book them in advance?

I like the idea of not being to a schedule, but would hate to get to the end of a days riding and then worrying if we can find a hote.

Defiantly going to look into those routes.

Rich

it's France - you will never be more than 30km from a McDonalds or hotel from the Accor chain. https://all.accor.com/united-kingdom/index.en.shtml - the Ibis Budget hotels are the ones with 3 person rooms in a double/single bunk bed arrangement but they also have 5* hotels in big cities and airports.
 
Thanks for all your points, it really helps the planning.

But the key question would you just ride and hope to find a hotel or book them in advance?

I like the idea of not being to a schedule, but would hate to get to the end of a days riding and then worrying if we can find a hote.

Defiantly going to look into those routes.

Rich

France, though much bigger than the UK and a bit foreign, is not devoid of hotels. As Wessie says in his excellent advice, France has anything and everything from the very basic Formula1 through to five star luxury, with lots of small family hotels and the homogeneous chains (like Ibis) in between. So, yes, you and your two friends can take pot luck.

As this is your first trip abroad and to France, the first thing you’ll discover is that it’s a much bigger country than it might look on a paper map and definitely much larger than it looks on a computer screen. Talking of computer screens, if you are doing all your planing on a computer, do buy a map or two, too. Why? That’s easy: You won’t have your PC with you on the side of the road. The map that Jazbee suggests is certainly a good one, as are the RiDE links that he and Adventuredon have shared.

To get an idea of the size of France, let’s imagine a journey that goes Le Havre > Brest > Vannes > Nantes > Le Mans > Le Have. In other words, a crude circle through Brittany, Normandy and Pays de Loire, ie the three areas listed in your opening post. It would look something like this:

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Google puts the non-stop estimated time as fourteen and a half hours, using motorways. That jumps to a fraction under 24 hours, if you avoid (as you want to) every motorway / toll road. By way of simple comparison: Reading, where you live to the tip of Scotland is just under 12 hours by mototorway and fifteen and a half hours if you avoid motorways and tolls. You now have something to compare with and hopefully can now visualise how big France is. You can also hopefully get an idea how the time jumps if you avoid all motorways and toll roads. We know nothing about you but maybe ask yourself, if you were to ride from Reading to the tip of Scotland (and much further again) would you studiously avoid all motorways and toll roads entirely and seek to ride every small’ish road?

Let’s then look at the same route Le Havre > Brest > Vannes > Nantes > Le Mans > Le Have in the very popular Kurviger app, set to avoid motorways but to also avoid every goat track.

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It’s give or take, 1000 miles. By way of simple comparison, that is Reading to John o’Groats and back to Glasgow, just for that one corner of France.

You say you have got a week (7 days) but I wonder if that might include getting from Reading to say Le Havre and back again to Reading. I suggest this only because bods often forget the additional journey times getting from their house and back again. Let’s assume a very modest (very optimistic even) two half days for the Reading out and back bit. You are now at six days to complete 1000 miles, which is about 170 miles each day, taking D roads, in other words avoiding motorways. That is doable. But, again, we know nothing about you or our friends. It might take you all day - every day, rain or shine - to ride 170 miles by the time you have stopped, had a coffee, pressed flowers, had lunch, bought fuel, had a tea stop, pressed more flowers…… and then and only then thought about where you might find a hotel.

But hey, we digress. Your key question was:

would you just ride and hope to find a hotel or book them in advance?

The answer is, yes you can and / or you can do both, if you feel like it. The only obvious observation being: if you don’t know where you’ll be, booking too far in advance is bound to be tricky. If by, ‘in advance’, you mean the day or evening before or some time on the actual day, then yes, of course you can. As Wessie observed, things like Booking.com have made life a doddle for the Adventure (with a capital A) motorcyclist. It’s truly a miracle how anyone ever did it before the internet. The dark ages must have been terrifying.

But, as tempting as it might be, don’t just take my word for it. To prove to yourself and your friends that it can be done, enter: ‘Hotels in Brest’ into Google and see how many pop up. Now do the same with ‘Hotels in Nantes’ and see how many pop up. Now zoom in and pick any small town you like in the intended regions of your travels - or anywhere in France, Spain, the UK or America - and ask Google the same question. There might not be any (not every small French town has a hotel or even a cafe that is definitely open) but the search engines will find you hotels nearby. The rest is now up to you, your chums and your potentially unlimited imaginations.

:beerjug:
 
Thank you.

It’s quite fun:

A. Finding out what people actually want to do and why.

B. Helping them to help themselves.

C. Cheating.

What does cheating mean? Nothing more than entering ‘Brittany motorcycle tours’ (just three words) into Google, then just surfing about. For example the very popular ferry company’s website throws up:

https://www.brittany-ferries.co.uk/holidays/collections/car-motorcycle-tours/france

By using a bit of imagination, anyone can join:

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To:

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To:

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All you have to do is count the days and look at the mileages.

As each of the jaunts is broken up into days and are ‘safe’ in the sense that they are created for a wide spread of totally unknown ferry customers, they’ll be rideable or drive’able by anyone.

For example, here’s the blurb from the D-Day jaunt:

TOUR ITINERARY

1 night in Port en Bessin

1 night in Arromanches

1 night in Caen


Or, look at it another way. It’s potentially:

One day to get from somewhere to Port en Bessin

One day from Port en Bessin to Arromanches

One day to get from Arromanches to Caen

One day to get from Caen to somewhere else….

That’s four days out of the OP’s seven days gone but that presumably includes looking at D-Day stuff and bimbling along.



Want to change things? That’s easy, take a map or use something like Kurviger or viaMichelin to suggest roads to take between the suggested overnight stops. Knowing where the stops will (or could) be will help to maybe book hotels ahead of time or at least to look to look in advance (even today) what sort of hotels there are, which might suit and just about anything else anyone might want to know. The same website says exactly that in its last two paragraphs:

ABOUT THE TOUR

Taking a ferry crossing from one of our UK ports with your car or motorcycle is a relaxing way to begin a few days of sightseeing. And en route don’t forget to try the delicious food and drink that this area is famous for which includes cheese, apples, cream and of course Calvados.

The D-Day landing beaches during the Second World War - Utah, Omaha, Gold, Sword and Juno - are all a vivid memory of 20th century history. Many of our customers visit Normandy to discover the story of a family member who was part of this momentous event in 1944 which is always a touching and humbling experience.

Visit the famous Pegasus Bridge which was freed by the British 6th Airborne Division glider unit. The first house to be liberated is now the nearby Café Gondrée which has been owned by the same family since this unforgettable event.

Other important historical sites such as Sainte Mère Eglise, Pointe du Hoc, the Mémorial de Caen and the military cemeteries are all places of remembrance of the Allied troops’ sacrifice to give France its freedom.

Arromanches has the remains of the artificial Mulberry Harbour which played an enormous part in the largest seaborne invasion in history and you can visit the Musée du Débarquement which depicts the construction of the port. Or take an amazing journey at the very thought provoking Arromanches 360 Circular Cinema, which retraces the ‘ first 100 days of Normandy’ that changed the world.

A brand new memorial has been unveiled in honour of the British troops who died at D-Day and the Battle of Normandy. This incredible, temple-like structure with 160 stone columns sits atop a hillside overlooking Gold Beach.

You could also visit some of the most beautiful villages in this region featuring gorgeous half-timbered houses and cobblestone streets. Combined with our itinerary that has been carefully designed by local experts, this tour gives you the opportunity to experience a different way of holidaying with Brittany Ferries.

You can combine any of our car and motorcycle tours, or you can even plan your very own itinerary from scratch using any of our hotels in France. Perhaps you just want to add a few nights to one of the routes? Anything is possible - just ask!


Want to do a bit more? Arm yourself with Michelin’s excellent Green Guide To…. (Insert region of choice)…. Available via the Amazon or any half decent bookshop, even in Reading. The books often give really good suggested routes to ride. OK, the things Michelin suggest might sometimes be a bit ‘cultural’ for some bikermates but the roads won’t all be bad. Pick the bits you like and spit the other bits out.
 
One thing that I experienced the last few times I was in France that might be worth bearing in mind is that thanks to many online booking sites/services providing free cancellation prior to a certain time, in the mid afternoon "everywhere" can appear to be fully booked, but in the early evening there are numerous places available.
I think many folk book a few options in advance, and just take the one that ends up suiting their day's events nearer stopping time, and then cancel the other options they'd booked just in case.
So don't get freaked out if nothing seems available around 4.30pm or so...there should be plenty available after 6.30pm or thereabouts.
 
To take it a stage further, here is just the opening piece of this suggested itinerary;

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Cut into ViaMichelin, avoiding motorways and tolls:

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The same ViaMichelin website / app will give hotel suggestions. Play around, it’s free and you can break it.

Here’s the whole thing cut into Kurviger, avoiding motorways and tolls, favouring lesser roads but avoiding goat tracks:

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It’s 470 miles. Three days out of your seven (assuming the same start and end points) gives an average daily mileage on the lesser roads of about 160 miles, so quite doable, even allowing for flower pressing. On the face of it, it looks OK, depending on what YOU and your chums want to see and do….. and not least, where YOU want to stay each night.
 


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