Cut from a parallel thread.
Richard
If it helps, me and Mrs average:
65+ on French Motorways
40+ on French N/D Roads
30+ On Alpine twisties (Black Forest is @40mph on a days ride)
Wannabe racers on Fireblades may be a bit quicker, plodders on any bike a bit slower, it is suprising that someone that seems very slow when your out riding is only average 2-3 mph less than the fast guys, particularly if you all do similar speeds on straights and Mr Racer is not blasting through 30's at 60 - and I think we are all too old for that now?
I average a bit more solo, but in a group of 3-4 friends it starts to drop off as you have to go to slowest pace, allow for guys getting held up when half the group gets past a slow car and the other half don't etc.
These are also "moving averages" taken from sat-nav, exlcuding stop times - which also exponentially rise with the size of group, and also allow for perhaps some bad weather (although often you can shorten route a bit or use more motorway to offset) road closures with shit diversion signage have caused me grief on occasions.
I have several mates I ride with and know which ones need to stop for 15 minutes plus every hour, and those that will happily drain a 200 mile tank without stopping, the former makes a 6 hour ride a long day, the latter I can confidently plan for 8+ hours riding and know we will be sat having a pre-dinner drink at 6PM.
The former also tend to be the ones who cannot possibly be up for breakfast before 8:30am ;-) When hot me and the Mrs would sometime be on the road by 06:30 to avoid a whole afternoon in 40c heat, did a trip one year with a guy who it was bloody hard to get out of bed before 9:00am and lucky to hit the road by 10:00am, which meant a couple of fucking uncomfortable days where we ended up skipping all the good roads and usng motorway just to escape the stiffling heat sooner.
Good luck with it all!
Richard
If it helps, me and Mrs average:
65+ on French Motorways
40+ on French N/D Roads
30+ On Alpine twisties (Black Forest is @40mph on a days ride)
Wannabe racers on Fireblades may be a bit quicker, plodders on any bike a bit slower, it is suprising that someone that seems very slow when your out riding is only average 2-3 mph less than the fast guys, particularly if you all do similar speeds on straights and Mr Racer is not blasting through 30's at 60 - and I think we are all too old for that now?
I average a bit more solo, but in a group of 3-4 friends it starts to drop off as you have to go to slowest pace, allow for guys getting held up when half the group gets past a slow car and the other half don't etc.
These are also "moving averages" taken from sat-nav, exlcuding stop times - which also exponentially rise with the size of group, and also allow for perhaps some bad weather (although often you can shorten route a bit or use more motorway to offset) road closures with shit diversion signage have caused me grief on occasions.
I have several mates I ride with and know which ones need to stop for 15 minutes plus every hour, and those that will happily drain a 200 mile tank without stopping, the former makes a 6 hour ride a long day, the latter I can confidently plan for 8+ hours riding and know we will be sat having a pre-dinner drink at 6PM.
The former also tend to be the ones who cannot possibly be up for breakfast before 8:30am ;-) When hot me and the Mrs would sometime be on the road by 06:30 to avoid a whole afternoon in 40c heat, did a trip one year with a guy who it was bloody hard to get out of bed before 9:00am and lucky to hit the road by 10:00am, which meant a couple of fucking uncomfortable days where we ended up skipping all the good roads and usng motorway just to escape the stiffling heat sooner.
Good luck with it all!