Calais to the Vosges - A holiday in the making

oh, and as for hotel availability, there seems to be a number of things seemingly affecting availability:
1. places are busy for the Easter & May holidays this year, and prices have gone up especially for breakfast add-ons in France.
2. Some hotels seem to be limiting availability on the big booking sites, presumably due to the rising fees. I have been using Google maps to check availability which often has a price from the hotel's own website or preferred booking agent but nothing from the usual suspects (who seem to be owned by one of two companies, Expedia or Booking).
3. free cancellation very close to the travel date seems to be disappearing which affects group bookings as you do not have the flexibility to cancel a room if someone can't travel.
4. many more places are asking for prepayment, sometimes at the time of booking or a few days before arrival, maybe once the cancellation period has ended. In the past I have booked multiple rooms on my account but for future trips, I might need to ask others to book themselves and take responsibility for cost to change dates etc.

In the current economic climate, this is all very understandable as hotels in the past have been encouraged by the booking sites to take a lot of risk with no advance payment and free cancellation terms.

As ever, if you want to stay in a particular hotel or location, you might need to go old school and contact the hotel. Most will respond to an email and a translation service makes this easy.

cross posted to Touring Tips
 
Thank you again Richard, Wessie and Harry.

Please do not get the wrong impression of my request, I do not expect anyone to plan my trip for me and was just looking for the benefit of your considerable experience. The amount of time and effort you have provided is amazing

I have plenty of excellent advice and tips to use now to finalise bookings whether using say Booking.com or direct to the hotel. For example contacted Hotel d'Europe who responded same day. I did to European trips in 2022, one with my wife, and thoroughly enjoyed them

Very much looking forward to riding to and touring the Vosges region and possibly neighbouring areas

Thank you again, very much appreciated
 
I wouldn’t discount places like Ribeauville, Kaysersberg, and even Colmar if you want to stay on the French side of the Rhine. All have good hotels and are in easy reach of the Vosges.

Kaysersberg is a favourite - there is a Logis just outside the town centre. Also stayed in Colmar which we enjoyed, but they seem to be making using city centre hotels more difficult by limiting parking outside the hotel we used. Checked on Streetview and they have erected "reserve pompeurs" signs where we parked in 2018!

OP seems to want to be in the Nord Vosges. Not sure he has looked at a map to see the area is much, much larger than the bit north of Strasbourg!
 
When you do go and have returned, I wonder if you would be as kind as to tell the forum the hotels you did use, please. Not least, tell us if they were any good and if so, why? Of course anything else about your trip would also be well received, I’m sure.

Thanks,

Richard
 
Yes of course Richard. Would be glad to.

Its nice to dream of biking holidays in Europe when its snowing and freezing outside

Thanks again to all for the advice

Richard
 
Wessie, Are you available to ask how Kaysersberg, Colmar and Strasbourg compare as bases which include various places to eat in the evenings? Although the Vosges parc natural is in the northern area is the southern area south of Strasbourg just as nice?
 
Between Calais and the Vosges

All three places offer different restaurants; you’ll not need to take a sandwich.

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Strasbourg has a population not far short of half a million souls. I doubt very much if they all cook at home for every meal. Colmar, 70,000 and Kayserberg 4,500.



The whole of the Vosges offers decent enough riding about in just about any direct. See lots of posts with routes.
 
I can't comment on Strasbourg as never entered the city. The old centre of Colmar is lovely with lots of places to eat. It has a lot of canals as it used to be an important port in medieval times, with the Rhine nearby. Colmar is a large city and the outskirts are less attractive with a lot of industry.

Kaysersberg is in the Alsace wine region and plays on that. There is a "wine route" that continues southwards past Colmar. Very much a town based on the tourist trade. Plenty of restaurants in the compact town centre.

The southern part of the Vosges is where most people go. It is much larger and more mountainous than the Nord Vosges. The Route des Cretes is spectacular. This road runs from Cernay in the south to Ste Marie aux Mines and links several passes with the Grand Ballon being the highest at 1343m. Most are over 900m.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Route_des_Crêtes

Then there is the Ballon d'Alsace https://goo.gl/maps/g7PpZfwjYfyQYbMH9 and a number of passes that run east to west such as the Col du Bonnhomme, Col du Bussang and Col de la Schlutt.
 
This is great information. Now settled on Colmar as I found a nice 3 star Hotel Turenne with underground car park in the little Venice area. The opportunities for touring from this side of the Rhine are excellent particularly for wine connoisseurs and history buffs let alone some great roads. Might also venture across to the Black Forrest

Hope others will find the information on this tread also useful

Cheers
 
This is great information. Now settled on Colmar as I found a nice 3 star Hotel Turenne with underground car park in the little Venice area. The opportunities for touring from this side of the Rhine are excellent particularly for wine connoisseurs and history buffs let alone some great roads. Might also venture across to the Black Forrest

Hope others will find the information on this tread also useful

Cheers

Château du Haut-Kœnigsbourg is about 17 miles north of Colmar and well worth a visit.
I attended a medieval banquet there many years ago when I worked in Basel.
 
Between Calais and the Vosges

As the request for accommodation has morphed into very nearly a complete holiday, here’s a route (lifted from Motorrad magazine) which might be interesting, as you’ll be staying in Colmar.

https://www.motorradonline.de/8/7/6/0/8/4/8/Faltkarte_Elsass_gesamt-rgb.pdf

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Here’s some more, all the German ones translate OK, using Google’s ability to render a website in English.

https://www.motorradonline.de/reise/motorrad-tourentipp-vogesen-nordelsass-die-abseitige-tour/

https://www.motorradonline.de/reise/motorrad-tourentipp-zentrale-suedvogesen-die-dynamik-tour/

Scroll down a bit in: https://motorradstrassen.de/touren/motourguide/schwarzwald-reisefuehrer

By doing nothing more than tapping around a bit, the GPX routes will pop up:

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https://www.hdi.de/versicherungen/mobilitaet/motorradversicherung/touren/schwarzwald-elsass-vogesen/

Play around in the Tourenfahrer website, you can’t break it. Here’s a sample:

https://www.tourenfahrer.de/tour-datenbank/tour/ste-marie-aux-mines-184/detail/

For just two euro, you can download the GPX file or just create it yourself from the map.

RiDE magazine does its own take on it, too:

https://www.ride.co.uk/routes-content/alsace-lorraine-amp-france-comte
 


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