2023 Nav VI/6
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Ah ....copy and paste fail and BMW part number blindness
2nd BMW part number in post 18 should have been 77528504067
The only difference between the last 2 part numbers posted by Pablo1 is the mount as far as I can see. It comes up as including the mount on every site including Amazon
Nothing mentioned about it being an upgraded model internally but more inclined to think any returned may have been by Garmin as per post 16 by G&T depending on date
Apologies for my confusing the issue
2nd BMW part number in post 18 should have been 77528504067
The only difference between the last 2 part numbers posted by Pablo1 is the mount as far as I can see. It comes up as including the mount on every site including Amazon
Nothing mentioned about it being an upgraded model internally but more inclined to think any returned may have been by Garmin as per post 16 by G&T depending on date
Apologies for my confusing the issue
Reiten said yesterday that a Nav 7 is due, but can't find any details?
There were rumours of a Nav 7 2 years ago.....I feel this may be the effort, can't see them bringing another Nav into the market with this new one
https://www.press.bmwgroup.com/glob...sents-the-connectedride-navigator?language=en
https://www.press.bmwgroup.com/glob...sents-the-connectedride-navigator?language=en
Why does the Nav 6 and 5 lose 3/4 of its charge within one month of no use?
Over winter I schedule charging the Nav via the home power socket to full, put it back in its box and repeat each month. 3/4 seems a lot to me. I should add that it’s not in sleep mode, but actually off.
Over winter I schedule charging the Nav via the home power socket to full, put it back in its box and repeat each month. 3/4 seems a lot to me. I should add that it’s not in sleep mode, but actually off.
No, but I would genuinely like to know why? There are a few electronics experts on here
Flattening any battery damages the life of that battery . Some battery types fair better than others . Conversely , batteries eg Lithium do not fair well when stored at full power (60% best for Lithium storage ) and so the BMS automatically discharges my Lithium batteries .
Does it matter ? ..that depends on how fck’d you are if your battery fails ; for a drone it’s a disaster , whereas on a Nav V or Nav VI it’s a nuisance.
That said , my trusty Nav V always goes flat , but immediately recovers, quickly when powered by the bike.
Does it matter ? ..that depends on how fck’d you are if your battery fails ; for a drone it’s a disaster , whereas on a Nav V or Nav VI it’s a nuisance.
That said , my trusty Nav V always goes flat , but immediately recovers, quickly when powered by the bike.
This is an extract from a recent Cardo blog - it goes some way in explaining Lithium battery life.
Lithium-ion batteries don’t have a set expiration date, and their lifespan depends on how you charge them, use them, and store them. Over time, though, battery life is expected to naturally decrease over time.
There are some key topics to discuss if you want to understand how to get the most out of your battery:
Each hour of DMC transmission consumes about 70mAmp, all-inclusive. Do the math, and you’ll see why we rate our 850mAmp Packtalk battery at 13Hrs talk time. We even tested it in the field – just to be sure.
Same way playing music takes 55mA per hour, a phone conversation consumes 45mA per hour, and merging music replay with DMC conversation consumes a combined 85 mA every hour.
If you charge the battery under very cold conditions or try to fast charge it with a too-powerful charger it could lead, in some extreme cases, even to a short-circuit of the entire battery. If you happen to like fireworks or just love to watch things burn – congratulations!
If you leave the battery discharged for a long period of time, and then trying to charge it at this state will only cause, in extreme cases, yet again a short-circuit and a nice fireworks show. Luckily, modern power cells are equipped with protection mechanisms to prevent this from happening.
The more charge and discharge cycles a battery undergoes, the more the capacity of the battery will go down. A normal Lithium-Ion battery should be good for many hundreds and even thousands of charging cycles. But as the saying goes, nothing lasts forever. On average, a lithium battery like the one you find in your Cardo can experience a capacity reduction of about 20% after one year of typical usage. After a year, the degradation slows down. This percentage may vary depending on usage patterns, environmental conditions, and other factors. Gradual reduction in battery capacity over time is a natural occurrence and does not signify any defects in the battery or the device.
Lithium-ion batteries
Lithium batteries are at the heart of our devices and are incredible pieces of technology, they are also used in day-to-day electronics, like smartphones, laptops and earbuds, as well as in our products.Lithium-ion batteries don’t have a set expiration date, and their lifespan depends on how you charge them, use them, and store them. Over time, though, battery life is expected to naturally decrease over time.
There are some key topics to discuss if you want to understand how to get the most out of your battery:
- How Cardo measures battery time and how your usage affect it
- How Lithium-Ion Battery works
- How to ensure your battery lasts as long as possible
How do we measure battery time and how does your usage affect it?
Our Packtalk battery packs 850 milli Amps of power. Like a water fountain, a battery has a fixed capacity. It’s the way we use it that makes all the difference. Standby mode, music playing, DMC intercom or all of it combined. Eventually, depending on the way we use the communicator, our battery will run out.Each hour of DMC transmission consumes about 70mAmp, all-inclusive. Do the math, and you’ll see why we rate our 850mAmp Packtalk battery at 13Hrs talk time. We even tested it in the field – just to be sure.
Same way playing music takes 55mA per hour, a phone conversation consumes 45mA per hour, and merging music replay with DMC conversation consumes a combined 85 mA every hour.
How Lithium-Ion Battery Works
A Lithium-ion battery is the most popular means of powering modern-day consumer electronic devices – from your phone, laptop, or communicator. It’s a wonderful piece of electro-chemistry, but like anything in real-life, it isn’t perfect.If you charge the battery under very cold conditions or try to fast charge it with a too-powerful charger it could lead, in some extreme cases, even to a short-circuit of the entire battery. If you happen to like fireworks or just love to watch things burn – congratulations!
If you leave the battery discharged for a long period of time, and then trying to charge it at this state will only cause, in extreme cases, yet again a short-circuit and a nice fireworks show. Luckily, modern power cells are equipped with protection mechanisms to prevent this from happening.
The more charge and discharge cycles a battery undergoes, the more the capacity of the battery will go down. A normal Lithium-Ion battery should be good for many hundreds and even thousands of charging cycles. But as the saying goes, nothing lasts forever. On average, a lithium battery like the one you find in your Cardo can experience a capacity reduction of about 20% after one year of typical usage. After a year, the degradation slows down. This percentage may vary depending on usage patterns, environmental conditions, and other factors. Gradual reduction in battery capacity over time is a natural occurrence and does not signify any defects in the battery or the device.
How to ensure your battery lasts as long as possible
The good news is that you can slow down the deterioration pace considerably by following these easy-to-implement practices:- Avoid draining out your battery. Deep, full charges stresses your power unit. Prefer more frequent shallow discharges and charges, reducing strain on the battery. We advise to charge your Cardo unit when it reaches about 20-30% battery left and – if you can – unplug it once it reaches around 80-90% battery.
- Don’t store your unit for long periods without charging it periodically. Your battery naturally discharges over a long period of time, even when the unit itself is switched off. This leakage is common and expected. Don’t leave your battery empty for long, otherwise, you’ll find its full capacity has diminished when you finally take it out of storage and charge it. As a rule, charge your communicator at least once a quarter.
- Protect your charging efficiency by using genuine chargers and cables made for your device and avoid cheap hardware from questionable sources.
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